Same-same in Germany. RKI warns people are currently not taking precautions serious enough. Also, as expected, the infection dynamics change from local clusters to a dispersed model, i.e. something of a âbackground infectiosityâ in the whole population.
That makes it difficult to say, BTW, if continued âlockdownâ measures would have changed that.
Whatâs for sure is that traveling does hasten this dispersion. And Germans are holidaying the shit out of this pandemic. I am very ashamed of behaviour reported from, e.g., the Balearic Islands, Bulgaria, even Austria. (That said, people coming back from, e.g., Italy and southern France told me they were shocked how little social distancing was happening there, and specifically pointed out they werenât talking about tourists. I get the feeling we are somehow dooming ourselves in Europe to follow the US lead, in a slightly different way.)
Thanks for this. Iâll pass it along to my relatives still talking about excessive package processing and post-grocery shopping scrubbing activities.
Iâve been scanning news in various languages - Italian, German, Spanish, and French. Iâm surprised to see people in so many countries (there are reports and stories from nearly every continent) either wearing no mask at all, or just covering their mouths. Whatâs odd is seeing people working together, and half the people are wearing the mask properly but no one seems to correct the folks who are not.
I wish that this was covered in one of those mask videos (or all of them).
Seems like people talking past each other. Nate is correct in saying that lockdowns alone were never proposed as a sole solution, but heâs not claiming here that technology is a substitute for governance. Rather, lockdowns enable technological (or more precisely, scientifically justified) approaches to be effective. Thatâs what a âmanageableâ level means.
Coronavirus victims in Texas:
BBS rules prevent me from commenting on this.
There are rules against thoughts and prayers?
How many people has he exposed? Congresscritters tend towards older and higher risk individuals, esp on the right, so this could have consequences far beyond the average. Or just a nice case of schadenfreude.
I donât think itâs a binary thing, but I donât think you should talk about making a strategy based on a vaccine without saying that itâs a bad strategy.
When this got started, the best case scenario on a vaccine (assuming our current technology can make one! Still a question!) was 18 months. Thatâs next August. Our treatments have all also been underwhelming: shaving percentage points off of fatalities, no mention of whether they reduce the permanent damage (and likely, many of the people suffering permanent organ damage are not being treated, since theyâre not being hospitalized, and often donât know itâs happening until itâs too late).
I donât think there is an honest strategy of mitigation ahead of a vaccine that wouldnât look exactly like a mitigation strategy with no expectation of a vaccine.
Has anyone copyrighted the term âkarmavirusâ yet?
Itâs what Iâm praying for.
That can be left ambiguous without violating guidelines.
So far as I can tell, itâs still killed 10,000+ good people for every deserving asshole. Boris and Bolsonaro alive and well.
Gohmert, who was in attendance at Tuesdayâs House Judiciary Committee hearing with Attorney General William Barr, is the seventh representative to contract the virus. He was spotted without a mask on Tuesday speaking with Barr within an armâs length prior to the hearing.
Well, shit.
From the Tagesschau news ticker this morning:
One-fifth of the inpatients treated for corona died
A good fifth of the corona patients who were admitted to German hospitals in spring did not survive, according to a study. Mortality was particularly high, at 53 percent, in patients who were ventilated, according to an analysis by the Scientific Institute of the AOK [a health insurance], the German Interdisciplinary Association for Intensive and Emergency Medicine and the Technical University of Berlin. In total, the study was based on data from around 10,000 patients, of whom around 1700 were ventilated. Of the hospital patients who were not ventilated, 16 percent died.
This is Germany we are talking about. Really good healthcare, and at no point, hospitals were overwhelmed so far.
More info, for you to throw into gtranslate or deepl:
Nate specifically says ânot just vaccines thoughâ. Better testing and contact tracing, and better understanding (of e.g. how helpful masks are). All of those expand what a manageable level of virus looks like. I consider Nateâs point as more arguing for a more holistic approach that offers a clear sense of the objective of lockdowns, and what needs to be done beyond just a lockdown.
Thatâs a lot to unpack in one short message:
- Staff at Gohmertâs office werenât notified of their exposure directly, they had to learn about it from the press.
- They were required to work in the office against CDC guidelines
- They were berated for wearing masks.
- Somehow Gohmert considered all of the above abuses examples of âopening up safelyâ
