“I’m new here,” Atlas said, understating things slightly. “I hope I can help out in some way.”
The door is over that way, thanks.
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SMDH…we’re fucking doomed.
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If we give up, most certainly.
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Murder.
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That stuff seems completely nonsensical to me. 0% chance on an enclosed bus in 40 minutes? ’
Either I am not awake yet and reading it wrong or that is just crazy. How do you social distance on a bus? School buses can’t distance riders 6 feet. They would need to make 5 trips and kids would be getting home at 8pm.
Kids on a bus with minimal talking and movement? A “well-ventilated” mass transit system with minimal movement? 0.o
This is no different than the mask study. Their aren’t just two kinds of ventilation. One reason cruise ships were deathtraps, their ventilation systems fed room to room, making the whole ship one big incubator.
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These people need to understand they will be held accountable. Like… at a level proportionate to the tens or hundreds of thousands of lives lost because of their advice. What this person has already said puts him in the crimes against humanity dock.
And this isn’t Europe. Our maximum penalties are a tad worse…
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I would suggest the GoT “walk of shame,” especially since seeing these assholes having shit thrown at them would be a nice change. On the other hand, seeing these assholes 
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The famous example of documented infection on a bus was in a paper that was retracted, I don’t know if any others are known (though there are some examples of bus drivers getting infected, one can logically assume it was from exposure on the bus). Some of the buses used in city systems have very good ventilation. School buses, not so much.
Their aren’t just two kinds of ventilation.
Sure there are. For example, because of the legionnaires disease fiasco, most passenger aircraft are equipped with very sophisticated ventilation systems; they wont help if you are sitting next to someone who is ill, but with some distancing they seem to be adequate.
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most passenger aircraft are equipped with very sophisticated ventilation systems
Yeah, where as most schools in Ontario don’t. Our government in Ontario has announced $500m to upgrade “HVAC” systems in schools… now…
Evenly applied, $500-million is about $109,000 per each of the 4,600 schools in Ontario, and it will be case by case as to how many teachers, HVAC upgrades, and facility rentals that produces.
“HVAC” in most Ontario schools is an open window; which actually might be a good thing because $109k/school buys a lot of box fans, which would work until about October. After that, it’s back to either the petri dish scenario or the kids spending the day in their snow suits. (… and could we get someone, please, to take the classroom hamster home?)
The Education Minister is a Poli Sci grad and consultant which might explain his slightly loose grasp on what it takes to get contractors to show up at 4,600 schools in the next 3 weeks and install/upgrade HVAC on (say) 20 classrooms per school. If our military were staffed exclusively with HVAC tradespeople then a full mobilisation might just do it, provided somebody got the unit costs down to $5k/classroom 
(and found a few 10’s of thousands of units sitting in a warehouse…)
There are days when I think our society has flat-out forgotten what smart people and trained experts even look like… (Hint: not like sitting MPP’s in Ontario.)
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They sell special goggles for youth basketball that block the lower half of the wearer’s vision. Those might come in handy.
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Will they though? I mean I really do hope they will be held accountable. I hope they will be held financially and criminally accountable. I hope we make an example of them really for posterity. I hope there is any “we” left in this country to do so. I hope a lot of worse things for these miserable shit stains than that on a bad day when I can’t pretend I’m not damned angry. But I really doubt there will be any consequences at all. I do. Because who is going to hold them accountable? And how? How are we going to get into a position of power over them and how are we going to ensure they pay? I guess that’s what I hope to start hearing.
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To be honest? I hope I am wrong. I really do. I think though by the time this is all over, things will have reached a point here that fleeing the country will be their best bet. I truly do hope I am wrong, because what that will take isn’t something I look forward to, and may not be around for.
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What could go wrong with that?
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It’s not surprising, since these are authoritarians, who believe that the only way to get shit done is by some kind of threat or force.
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Saw Fauci on Newshour last night, and while mostly he was infuriating (mostly good advice, but in the most weaselly phrasing possible, all perfect for giving people like Ducey cover when they make murderous decisions), he did have a good line when they brought up Russia’s “vaccine”.
“Now, Russia says they have a vaccine…”
“Great. We have six vaccines. But none of them are proven safe or effective.”
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"According to Isaac Levy, designer and owner of Yvel company, based in Jerusalem, in addition to requesting the most expensive mask in the world, the anonymous buyer also asked that the bespoke mask be completed by the end of the year.
The mask, which will weigh 270g (.59lbs), will also be functional, as it will be fitted with N99 filters at the request of the client.
While Levy did not share the identity of the client, he told the Associated Press that the buyer is a Chinese businessman living in America."
$1.5 Million
People are dying and out of work and this.
This.
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