Continuing coronavirus happenings (Part 3)

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Abbott looks on with envy.

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I’m sure that study is accurate for the period of time it encompassed (ending July 25) but unfortunately it may be a little outdated with the rise of Delta. If you look at more recent plots comparing case rates based on vaccination status over the last month or so it’s pretty clear that ratio against infection is no longer 29:1. Maybe closer to 3 or 4 to 1.

https://covid19.sccgov.org/dashboard-case-rates-vaccination-status

Protection against hospitalization or death may still be more robust though.

Edit: in addition to the CDC study that @mr_raccoon referenced above, the CDC just put out another, more sobering report today:

So yeah, a 66% efficacy rate is less than where we were. :frowning:

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Doesn’t surprise me at all. If missing work means you lose your job or lose income, you make the moral calculation between infecting other people and becoming homeless, and decide that infecting other people is the lesser of two evils. And so it continues (at least, until better sick leave policies happen for American workers, which is likely never).

I’m homeschooling my kid for the duration.

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That man is a national treasure…

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I’ve seen some of the thoughts and prayers he receives and they are horrifying.

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Positive news, but the word"if" is doing some very heavy lifting in that headline

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And you know there are going to be people working to make sure that this does not happen.

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Also, I think, there’s a contest between known and unknown risks. If someone knows for sure that they’ll lose income or lose their job if they miss work, vs the fact that they may or may not infect someone else if they send their kid to school and go to work, the decision is more out of their hands. In other words, not just a personal moral calculation, but a symptom of the system having let them down. We need universal guaranteed basic income, medicare4all, etc., etc.

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Fauci’s a smart guy, but I have no faith in his crystal ball. Many an epidemiologist has been unsuccessful in predicting the pandemic’s pattern so far so I question anyone’s ability to say what the virus will be doing another 6 or 7 months from now. And what does “good control” even look like? There are some countries with higher vaccination rates than the US who still aren’t in what anyone would consider “good control” yet.

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It’s just so hard to imagine there are so many people running around “doing research” at a level that wouldn’t even save a high school essay paper.

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They’re probably watching this instead:

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any idea about that strange dip to zero in june?

it seems it has to be some sort of data or reporting error because it almost immediately goes to a plateau before then a few weeks later starting to grow

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wait. wait. they’re going to shut down schools so that they can use the schools to separate children from their families? :thinking:

like isn’t school already the separation of children from their family? why would you send them home in order to abduct them to bring them back? im so confused.

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Shock and, whatever.

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No reporting over Memorial Day weekend I expect. Then the rapid climb as people start vacationing

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Ain’t got the time to dive in, so quick question: did you check on the Simpson’s paradox article I posted above?

Might be worth a look, and a look online is someone is checking the stats of this one, as well.