They could pick the collor yellow and go with the monicker "Team instin… i mean “progressive left” .
edit: I for one would love a progressiv left in charge that kicks out both reps and dems from states. The US neeeeeeds some progressive thing other social democracies have like universal healthcare.
Cory,
I thought you were a Canadian & British citizen. Do you hold US Citizenship? If not you just admitted to campaign finance violations.
Green card holders can donate to campaigns, they just can’t vote. I believe he is a permanent resident in the US.
I once worked for a company that ran a PAC and they were super aggressive about seeking employee contributions. I never gave them any money (and did everything I could to blacklist their email addresses since naturally the unsubscribe links never worked) and once I dug into what they were funneling employee contributions into, I’m glad I didn’t.
PACs should be outlawed.
True, permanent residents may contribute. Does he have a green
card plus dual citizenship? He doesn’t permanently reside in the
US, does he?
Right now he does. He moved to LA or somewhere in that area a few years ago.
Good old Democrats, still playing to lose.
And you had a salient point until you went on to say:
I resent the implication that centrists are hypocrites especially when we’re on the precipice of a fascist dictatorship backed by conservatives who crave power more than democracy. By all means, box all centrists as a people who approve of these shenanigans like this, and chase them away. You’ll make 2020 a cakewalk for Trump to stay in power.
Just in the last week, we’ve seen Steve Bannon hold an alt-right rally where people hope for a permanent Trump autocracy, not to gasps of horror, but wild applause. This is a movement that wants a “white ethnostate”, with at least 90% of the population white. You would have to destroy over 150 million people to achieve that.
So how dare you cast centrists as people you can’t ally with when the alternative isn’t going to make your main issue when will you get universal healthcare, but how are you going to get your family to safety before the stormtroopers round them up for the death camps.
“Enlightened centrist” =/= centrist
If my “allies” are going to enable the stormtroopers to round us up just because we didn’t lie politely to them then they aren’t really allies to begin with.
What is this I don’t even.
Trump has 40% of the country backing him. Unless all who oppose him stick together, he’ll win 2020. Even if he does lose, he’ll probably attempt to stay in power by rejecting the results of the election and invoke martial law and his supporters are prepared to back him on this.
Can you see the bigger the picture here?
We can’t afford division or all is lost. We can’t argue about what color to paint the walls when the house is on fire.
If their resistance against fascism is dependent on sugar coated lies to make them feel better, are they really allies? Voting against Trump should be a no-brainer for anyone truly opposed to him and his policies, yet you suggest they might not vote against him. Why would this be?
As one of the people who would be sent to the death camps, yes I can. I don’t understand why I am supposed to lick peoples boots so they might not stand by if I am sent there though?
How about the bitter truth that the Green New Deal isn’t going to do enough in time, yet the establishment democrats are opposed to even that. Why can’t they see the bigger picture?
Finally, some sense.
I think we need to tone down the hyperbole a bit. I think we can all agree we need good candidates in the primaries (and yeah that’s gonna mean some more people like aoc kicking out some establishment dems too) and we also need to defeat trump and the republicans in the general. Let’s all get involved and make sure that happens.
Anyone who ever stood up or could stand up to Trump are going to the death camps if history is any guide. The hate machine has an insatiable need for scapegoats and it will always find another once it runs out of victims. Anyone who just stands by is only delaying the inevitable.
This. The answer is to change the structure of the party to be open to challengers, not to throw your hands up and do the both-sides copout. The DCCC is chartered (I don’t know the details) within the party so if enough daylight and shame is brought to the issue then maybe we can get some change. Or, I dunno, we could just keep doing this circular firing squad thing and continue to let the right wing fascists run the table.
I don’t believe this is the case. The DCCC is a common campaign wing for the individuals in the House who happen to be Democrats. One of those individuals (Nancy Pelosi) also has a formal seat on the DNC, but as far as I know there is no other direct connection between the Party and the DCCC.
Since the DCCC represents sitting House Democrats, it is not at all surprising that it might support sitting House Democrats over other Democrats. I would expect, for example, that the DCCC would support AOC over any primary opponent, even if they supported her opponent last time.
Hmmm. Interesting. This is the kind of shit moderates are talking about when they say “both parties are the same”. OH sure, they do have some differences in policy and they way they sell it, but they are both about power and retaining it. They feel threatened by genuine outsiders.
It should also show a counter argument to the notion that Democrats are socialist. Pffft. They aren’t. At least most of them. They actually get real democratic socialists like AOC or Sanders and they are actively working to reduced their power within their ranks as well as manipulating the rules to help prevent more from coming in.
I guess the only thing to remember here is that the DCCC is only concerned about House reelection. Full stop. And of course they will try to ensure that those already in get assurances that the money they donate won’t be used against them.
As I see it, you shouldn’t be donating to the DCCC anyways, it’s more like a collection pot for Dem representatives to help each other out. If you want to get more Dems elected, I would recommend going local and supporting more Dems at the county and state level.
> I sometimes almost wonder if the two parties aren’t actually acting in concert
Certainly it is a real struggle between the two, but they effectively work together to crowd out other parties.
It is an ecosystem. The best bet to understand and possibly to change it is to model it like that and understand what can fit in that environment.
See Coke vs Pepsi and the market share of the biggest 3rd party cola?
Also Apple vs Microsoft for the desktop.
This doesn’t have to be. For a while, it was McDonalds vs Burger King but that market managed to become competitive to other burger slingers.
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t as far as I know there is no other direct connection between the Party and the DCCC./quote]
I think you are correct in that their leadership is completely separate but I do believe that they have a legal connection and that the bank accounts they have are within the party system. The most important distinction is that all the committee’s raise money separately, which means they are essentially completely independent. It’s also worth noting that the separate fundraising is part of why the DNC is always broke because the DNC has no candidates other than the President than don’t have separate committees. The RNC does things differently and having survived the Tea Party internal civil war without angering their base voters in the same way, it seems like it might be better, but I haven’t really dug in on what problems their structure has.
