Despite sabotage and dirty tricks, Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour leadership race in unprecedented landslide

He’s not, he’s an Anglican, you might call him an Evangelical Christian. He’s got very little in common with what usually comes to mind when one thinks of a ‘fundamentalist’, he supports equal marriage for example. He’s not the ideal candidate to lead the LibDems, but he’s clearly the least bad leader in British politics at the moment.

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Sort of, in that wishy-washy LD way. He abstained on the vote.

That’s not quite true actually:

If you don’t serve in the IDF it’s unethical to encourage military expansion of the IDF that requires everyone outside of your group to service an agenda you’re primarily determining.

It’s obvious you’re fully reconciled to these things. Fine. I feel like my reasoning on the matter is clear enough.

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Salmond, Sturgeon - those Scots do love their fish.

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Mod note: stay on topic

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Corbyn isn’t Labour’s most popular leader, that accolade goes to Tony Blair, who was by far the most successful in getting Labour elected to power. It isn’t even “unprecedented” for Mr. Corbyn, he got pretty much the same vote he got last time. Out of more than 44 million UK voters around half a million voted for Mr. Corbyn, it’s also the number of people who signed a petition to make England’s offical sporting anthem be “Gold” by Spandau Ballet.

Unlike the USA, the popularity of a leader is of less importance in our elections. Thatcher was often extremely unpopular but crushed Labour so hard that at one point a large number of people left to start their own party, (SDP) which also got crushed.

Whilst we’re talking of Thatcher…
A story the left wing media has failed to cover is what happens to women in the Labour party…
As well as the death threats Labour members have been making to their own MPs (including rape and beheading) the Labour party is less likely to produce a female leader than Saudi Arabia.

On paper, Labour has had two female leaders, a fact that is not only unknown to many Americans but most Brits as well. It has a process by which a token woman is given a token job that has no power, Deputy Leader. Unlike the US vice president, when the token woman becomes leader when the leader quits or dies, she is merely a placeholder until a suitable man (white of course) can be found.
The Conservatives have also had two leaders, both of which got there by winning and became Prime Minister, whereas Labour has patronising “women only shortlists”. Indeed in the most recent Conservative leadership contest, it came down to two women. Labour doesn’t even have one. When Diane Abbot ran for leader some years ago, party spokes_men_ were at pains to say that although she stood no chance of winning, it was nice that she ran. Ms. Abbot is of course a black woman. For the avoidance of doubt, Labour regards itself as the party of the progressive left. Yes. Really

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That’s a problem of any political system., You cite war and privatization and I suspect you care about climate change, wealth inequality and education, indeed the number of combiations of important issues is far greater than the number of voters.
To make it harder, elected representatives are chosen to represent their party years in advance. If he wins the next election Mr. Corbyn will be PM until at least 2025. Look what’s happened in the last 10 years, reckon less will change in the next 10 ?

Thus we are in effect voting for competence and compassion, not issues.

There’s an odd silence within this debate.
Many loud voices say he’s unelectable. I see that as false, since history tells us that there is always the chance that the tories self destruct or that he finds himself on the right side of a hot issue.

The silence from his internal opposition is about his policies. Yes they say they are unpopular which may or may not be true, but why don’t they say they’re batshit crazy ?

We both know that “crazy” and “popular” are not inconsistent in politics :wink:

His opponents don’t seem to say “replacing nukes with the world’s most expensve conventional bombs is a stupid joke”, they say “it will lose votes”. That’s quite telling.

Eh? All the issues in this thread (OK, except @logruszed’s haircut) are major components of the current dialogue over Labour internal politics. (Unfortunately, in the case of antisemitism.) Were some posts deleted?

That they were. Burp.

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Must have been quick, I didn’t even notice. Just wanted to be sure it wasn’t me!

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Ah, the Left love a good purge!

That kind of thing is part of my doubts about joining the party.

However, from the same article

Mr Katz received two standing ovations when he said his organisation would be working with members, MPs and Councillors, to show that “Jews are welcome in the Labour party.”

Not exactly reassuring because of the earlier abuse, but the party isn’t a lost cause for Jewish people yet. Maybe I should try joining so I can stand with them against that kind of abuse.

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