I am so verrrry surprised
I was wondering which GIF I’d open this thread to see. I was expecting stewartmildshock.gif or fryshocked.gif, but this is also a good one
This one works too:
Everything I’ve heard about Mark Zaid indicates that he’s good people.
Amusingly, at one point he represented comic book writer Mark Waid.
Well, you did a lousy job, because nobody fell for it- even the people pretending to be scared of the oh-so-violent Leftists knew they were full of shit.
I had to re-re-read one part:
That phrase stood out to me as well, and made me wonder how this situation would go wrong.
Of course - leftists, progressives, and socialists are always demonized in this country, often by Democrats. This makes it easy for us to be a convenient punching bag.
Now, if only we had articulate, intelligent, assertive, and visionary democratic socialists in Congress - that the DNC is not always trying to shut down…
It’s like everyone who has said this since the 50s, its the dangerous left that is ruining the country with their subversive ideas of equality and making life easier for everyone, not the murderous terrorist mobs of armed people. To get really a violent left movement you have to go back to the coal country union wars and that was like 200 years ago, it is possible that the left needs to brush up on some history and start some direct action
Or we need more folk running and winning seats, because otherwise, traction on the problem will likely be elusive.
I’ll argue that’s a much more effective/desirable approach.
That would be great, what party are they going to run with? Just independents? Do the form a new party as a block? Do you think that the democrats or the Republicans are going to let even fairly limp "democratic socialist " take over their party you have not been paying attention for the last 50ish years
I do. And I think you’re wrong.
If they show up and vote every time, they will, yes. It can be and has been done. AOC’s success is a good model to emulate here.
Work with what you have. Show up and vote for Democrats—every time. Work with and run leftier candidates where you can, and primary out those who won’t toe the line. But (he edited to add), if it comes down to unity, vote for that.
But don’t wait for unicorns or sit out elections on that basis—that doesn’t win elections.
Let the Republican party split itself instead.
So is Stacey Abrams’ work in GA.
Millions of people who were eligible to vote in the last election did not choose to do so, and you think they are going to show up and vote on a weekday that gets almost no press, for jobs that they don’t particularly understand (wtf does a controller do? Did you know that @18) and if you think the intrenched company democrats are going to let us take away their cash cow then you are being really naive.
I really hope we can look back on this conversation and point to all of the things that I got so very wrong here.
I love how they consider us leftists to be a bunch of snowflakes and pansies who wouldn’t know what to do with a gun if we had one, while simultaneously also considering us to be a bunch of dangerous extremists plotting to do…something. It’s like double projection.
8. The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy.
Violence at protests is a lot like voter fraud: the right talks about it, but in the end, it’s almost exclusively the right that is doing it.
Perhaps we should see to that…
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