Iāve seen some good comments about Google and itās perception regarding this. I donāt think, as a company, Google enjoys the same automatic trust that it once did. Itās a useful presence, but not a friendly one.
So the perception that Google is buying itās way physically into peopleās homes carries some menacing overtones. And their statements about things like Glass and the recent G+ G-Mail integration have been entirely clueless. A lot of people high up in the Google echo chamber seem completely unable to grasp the idea people might not want Google interfacing with every aspect of their lives. And certainly not on an opt-out rather than an opt-in basis.
They have made statements that Nest information will be reserved strictly for use in making the Nest a better and more useful product. But based on their past and current actions, I suspect that G+ integration is the sort of thing they would define as ābetterā and āusefulā.
God help them from the backlash if they buy someone like Fitbit and suddenly announce that all that data is suddenly linked to the rest of the Google services, like it or not.
Nope, because Nest isnāt compatible with our heating and I couldnāt afford the multiple thermostats Iād require anyway.
Although it arguably makes me rather spiteful, I canāt say Iām displeasedā¦ How better to remind people that hardware dependent on āthe cloudā is a dangerous game than having a company known for both sinister data-gathering and murdering well-liked products snap up a maker of expensive cloud-connected widgets?
Itās three billion dollars in object lesson and I donāt even have to foot the bill!
Great, G+ smoke alarm ā so, now everybody will know when I burn some muffinsā¦
Perhaps Google will subsidize your fuel bill based on the number of +1s one receives.
Then thereās Can We All Just Admit Google is an Evil Empire
Disappointed by Google buying Nest?
Iā¦ what the hell is Nest? What the hell are any of these things that Google is buying? Do I have something that Google wants to buy for a billion dollars in the hope they can make a profit out of it through some weird horizontal integration? If so, PM me Google, letās talk!
Iām not disappointed, Iām confused, vaguely anxious and wildly optimistic.
Iām not disappointed. Just more stuff not to buy. Although I bet Google will work to provide a home owners insurance premium discount if you use Nest by Google with google+.
Glad that Nest isnāt really set up to run the way Iād like a smart thermostat to manage my house because I have solar panels. I try to run things like air conditioning more during daytime āon peakā hours because thatās when I always have an insane number of kWh of credits and Iām always having to be careful about off-peak usage. I had been really hoping to find a home automation system that would be compatible with my solar set up and was right there ready to buy Nest when it first released. Now that Iāve thought about it more thoroughly, I think Iāll stick to the old-style programmables.
I prefer my wood-heated iron stove anyway.
And I have to note, I really love The VergeĀ“s Design.
I agree with you completely. Traveling down the rabbit hole just a little farther I see the insurance companies lobbying OSHA and State regulatory agencies for Nest or like systems into building codes. These systems would be required in new home construction and existing multiple apartment dwellings. This could allow snooping agencies directly into your private residence not only to collect the metadata but with the recent revelations on the NSA being able to listen in on even non-internet connected computers it is not much of a jump to believe that each Nest or like device could be used as a listening device. Iām really not a tinfoil hat person but this just seems to be a logical conclusion considering the NSAās insistence on collecting every Americans communication data.
I think that Google is going to be very aware of the exposure they have here. If not, they will soon become aware of it.
Google has a very good record on using open standards. The participate in IETF and the other forums. And they understand that if they donāt publish their APIs, someone will reverse engineer them and publish them.
I have three Nest thermostats, they work fairly well but they do have some missing features. There has to be a test mode for the HVAC people. When someone comes to fix my furnace they need to be able to put it through its paces even if turning the A/C on in winter or turning on the heat in summer makes no sense.
The problem I have with the current system is that the only choice is to have all the control happen in the cloud. I need to have local control and I want to be able to swap in my own optimization schemes that make use of readings from temperature sensors in multiple rooms and cope with the fact that there are two furnaces but three A/Cs and they all affect the whole house but in different ways.
Isnāt it great? Iāve been avid on TheVerge since inception. Design numero uno. Well, duo, after bb.net.
Dammit, I hate these link-baity headlines, like the one linked to in the article: āWhy is everyone disappointed by Google buying Nest?ā - well, everyone ISNāT. Iām not particularly disappointed, since I donāt own a Nest, and likely wonāt be owning one any time in the near future. Theyāre too expensive, and my current programmable thermostat which I got free from my electric company does everything I need. And Iām sure there are plenty of other people who also donāt really care about this acquisition either.
Disappointed by link-baity headlines? Youāll never guess how to stop seeing them!
The Nest alarm is a non-starter because I see nothing about it being user serviceable when the sensors inevitably fail, as they all do within a few years. Would I be happier about pitching a $120 smart item than a $30 dumb item? I think not.
Iām disappointed by the acquisition, as I just installed a Nest a little over a month ago. Had Google purchased them prior, I would not have gotten it.
I fully expect Google to plunder Nest for useful tech and engineers, holding on to the company for four or five years. Theyāll get what they need out of it, and then probably spin it back out on its own or sell it to another investor, but either way, itāll be a shadow of what it couldāve been.
Sketchup went the same way. Awesome, simple software, held on for a few years, then spun back out, and itās never been quite the same. Its mission is different now.
Or maybe theyāll just shut it down when itās not a shiny new toy any more, as with Reader and Wave and countless other tools.
Google isnāt a great innovator any more. Theyāre a holding company, and a venture capital company. They have a reputation for making innovative productsā¦and then killing them, with no replacement. I donāt trust them, and my concerns have nothing to do with privacy, but everything to do with the way they treat consumers.
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