DNA test shows Elizabeth Warren has Native American ancestry

Wait, Elizabeth frickin’ Warren is not far enough left for you? Wow, that’s some hard core purity testing there. Who is acceptable? I will tell you, I will vote my conscience in the primaries, but in the general, ANYfuckingBODY who can beat Trump will get my support.

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Trump’s going to clean up that neoLiberal swamp here in Washington. yessir…

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So you know, you can’t apply to become a member of the Metis, or quite a few other nations/tribes. Each one has their own unique government, obviously, but it is very common to determine membership based on actually living with the tribe as a member. DNA proof isn’t enough. Documentation isn’t enough. Have you experienced bigotry due to being known as a member of that tribe? That’s what makes you a member.

For example, my grandmother moved to the States and married a German-heritage man. Therefore, neither her children nor her grandchildren can claim membership in either of her tribes. That is a perfectly understandable law, and we abide by it.

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If ‘purity testing’ means rejecting corporatist toadies, then I suppose so.

We’re quite obviously dealing with completely different scales.

Well, setting aside skewed frames of reference of ‘left’ and ‘right’ and so on, Warren is likely just about as good as H. Clinton in terms of being ANYfuckingBODY who can beat Trump. That is to say, candidates who couldn’t even beat fucking Trump (I mean, how much lower could we push the bar?).

Much as I like Warren, I do agree that she would not be my choice to take on Trump in the current climate. We need someone who can generate an Obama like buzz, and motivate people to get out and fight through the efforts at suppression. I am not sure I see that person yet. It is sad that it does, in fact, require an exceptional candidate to do that. With the shot Trump has done to this country, there should be people clamoring for their right to vote. Sigh…

The Democrats’ strategy was particularly bad this time round, pushing an extremely unpopular candidate (whatever you think of her proposed policies).

Obama, with all of his charisma, ultimately ended up doing little but extending GW Bush’s bad policies (hey, but it was ok once it was Obama, because he’s “our guy”). This doubly screwed the Clinton platform by further sapping enthusiasm for voting by actual progressives.

Admittedly, Obama’s terms look good compared to what Trump’s managed to completely screw after a scant 2 years in office, but that’s really an unfair comparison and doesn’t make Obama a good president.

Ironically, Obama’s the right sort of candidate for the Democrats to run against Trump (as you suggest in the sense of your “Obama-like buzz” remark). Maybe centrist Democrats would be happier in the timeline where H Clinton won the 2008 nomination and Obama had to wait 8 years for “his turn”. Sadly (I was initially very excited about Obama) that timeline would be only marginally better than our current one for the majority of people.

If the Democrats can manage to run a half-decent candidate, Trump will be easy to defeat. But I assume we’ll get a ticket like “Biden/Warren” (since the corporatist wing of the Democratic Party have convinced themselves that Biden is incredibly popular, intelligent, etc.) which will have a difficult time against Trump, and even if successful will just shift us back to the Republican-lite policies of post-Carter Democrats since B Clinton.

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Sadly, I think you are right. The “powers that be” in the Democratic party are stuck in the at-this-point archaic way of thinking, trying to find a middle ground candidate that can attract the mythical “moderate Republican.” At this point, anyone who still voluntarily identifies as Republican cannot, by definition, by classified as “moderate.” If you willingly associate with Nazis and white supremacists, you are not “moderate” in any way. Running a candidate who is a stark contrast, and is sufficiently charismatic to inspire voter enthusiasm is the only way we win the next one. Not sure who that is, though. Julian Castro? Kamala Harris? The next 2 years will be interesting, but if the party selects another establishment, gerontocratic candidate we are screwed.

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At a guess, nobody who has any chance whatsoever of winning even a single Democratic primary, let alone getting anywhere in the general election. Leftist purity of ideology wins again, by failing to win!

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