Doug DeMuro reviews the new electric Ford F150 Lightning

Maybe they know what they want and don’t consider what you want as important to meet their needs?

I know I’m not going to be shuffling plywood or drywall. I might want something capable of towing an airstream without difficulty.

But hey - women aren’t as embarrassed by tiny things as men are.

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You’d be amazed what you can tow with a big Suburban or Explorer.

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You should buy one.

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I’ve already owned one, and I don’t have an Airstream to tow.

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A pickup with a 6.5’ or even 5.5’ bed is still pretty versatile, and can still carry a few sheets of plywood if you want. Don’t get me wrong, I think a lot of people buy bigger vehicles than they “need” because of image and because it is cheap, but the utility is real and I do see why people want a truck even if I don’t think they need it. But even most work trucks don’t have 8’ beds. If you look at contractors their trucks are used for tool chests, transporting smaller items, or hauling scraps to the dump. If they need a pallet of drywall the supplier delivers it to the job site. 8’ beds are really a niche need even among people who use the bed heavily.

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And I believe you.

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It’s also a good place for a generator.

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They shouldn’t be forced to do anything but funny that tapping the brakes coincides with which party is in office isn’t it?

Electric cars and trucks might just help get rid of such shenanigans.

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But…that would imply some kind of monopoly power behind this. Which we know doesn’t exist as there’s anti trust and price fixing laws.

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Poor Texas.

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Does it have a spare wheel?

Many UK electric cars do not have spare wheels - i.e. not even a storage space for one. One maker’s new all-electric has no space in back for a spare due to batteries, but has a “frunk” that could have been designed for a spare, but almost deliberately wasn’t - it’s kidney-shaped when it could have been round. They are all really scared of weight, right now. But with an F150, surely weight is long since forgotten about so … does it come with a spare or a space for one?

Yes it does. If you hunt down Biden’s tour of the F150 Lightning’s production plant, they show the “skateboard” with its motors and battery layout, and integrated spare tire mount.

ETA: Here is the rear view of the “Skateboard:”

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In the US, you can be much further from assistance than the UK. About 76 UK’s can fit into the US. 3 in Texas. 7 in Alaska. 11 states are bigger than the UK.

Additionally, for those taking it off road or camping; not having a spare is a huge safety miscalculation.

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Yeah no non-crew cab no deal. I want camper room.

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“These are cameras!”
Heck yes, they are. :sunglasses:

Tesla cars don’t have a spare wheel. The vehicle is too heavy for a conventional jack so you couldn’t change a tire anyway.

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Thanks. I’d have thought Doug would have mentioned this seeing as it is a clear issue with many new electrics, but perhaps he was having too orgasmic a time talking about the new gizmos. But maybe he’s due the benefit of the doubt as so few people seem to even realise it is an issue as yet (until they go to buy one, or - even worse - after they have bought one).

@KathyPartdeux Even more reason for a US reviewer - a specialist car reviewer! - to be aware of the issue and comment on it!

But there is nothing conventional about Tesla / Musk. Surely mini retro rockets to lift the car while a robot changes the wheel! :wink: Seriously, though, they could surely engineer a suitable jack, but not having a spares is another reason - as if I needed another one - not to buy a Tesla.
It does reinforce the fact that the car electric makers are all scared of weight. A stronger jack would be heavier and a spare wheel - even a ‘skinny’ - is dead weight 99.99% of the time.

Holden (GM Australia) had the Ute. I’m not sure they are made anymore, but I always see them brought up as a good successor to the El Camino. But the problem with online fans of things, it never translates into actual sales. According to most internet car forums if it doesn’t have three pedals and a V8 or turbo it’s worthless. Yet sales of manuals in average cars were so abysmal that manufactures stopped because it wasn’t profitable. I bought a 2016 Mazda 6 manual, specifically because it was manual. I love manuals, but I feel like the technology there stalled out in late 90’s.

As far as trucks, my opinion is very hard line utility. People complain about trucks being +$60k…well you wanted a nicely appointed Camry with all the utility of a truck, so what did you expect to happen? I’ll be happy when my father gives me his 97 Silverado (two door step side). I’d also love to see someone make a truck/utility alternative, like the Japanese kei trucks, but adapted for the US market. Cab over design, large bed, 4 cyl engine, $20k or less.

If I put a full bed workbox with a fold out awning I can put 6x 350w solar panels and run all my tools without touching the truck battery, great for a equatorial zone with bad infrastructure.

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Thinking about my own youthful times, smaller trucks are also a good idea for young people learning how to drive them. I was a pretty short kid and didn’t have my growth spurt until I hit my twenties. Driving my dad’s 70s Chevy pickup (not the El Camino) was an exercise in sheer terror what with barely being able to press the clutch to the floor and see over the hood at the same time.

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