Drums of War

this whole thread = :fire:

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Can confirm. My late step father was a Vietnam vet, who did some mercenary gigs in the 80s.

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This is
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Can we just not? Has the world in general, let alone Ireland specifically, suffered enough?

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I know, more of same, but in the current climate it makes my hackles rise.

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Fucking hell


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-27/le-pen-on-defensive-as-retired-french-generals-talk-of-revolt

Sorry no onebox?

And also


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France might have bigger problems than we do. Surprised I haven’t read more about this unless it is a sudden development.

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There are a lot of bad things going on in France right now. Over the past year of so, it seems as if Macron has been moving steadily further right to appease the fascists and ultra-nationalists and Identitarians. This story shows how well this strategy is working out for him (and how slim his grasp on the lessons of history is).

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You mean that former investment bankers make bad politicians!?!

Parks And Recreation Gasp GIF by NBC

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disappointed standing in the rain GIF

[ETA] things are just getting worse:

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My cousin Donny has some good points here he’s not really my cousin Donny, he just looks exactly like him

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Why American politicians cannot say the words ‘Israeli apartheid’

Let’s please add “yet” to the end of that sentence.

It’s so obviously an apartheid state.

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i’ve said it on twitter and received a fair amount of abuse for it. and i’m not even a politician.

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Wait. What’s going on in France?

The same anti-immigrant whinging from the right wing parties that Macron is attempting to placate by pushing for anti-Muslim/immigrant policies that has been going on for a while now.

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Ah, so it is just right-wingers saying that the Muslim boogeyman is going to get you. Got it.

edited to remove any suggestion of mental-state.

Not, it’s a dangerous right wing political party with actual MPs who are being placated by the supposed “centrist” president.

This whole “wingnut” narrative needs to be ditched, considering that these parties have been gaining actual traction in many major countries, including here. We’re where we are because people have steadfastly refused to take them seriously, ascribing either mental illness to them or calling them things liek “wingnuts”. Everyone thought Trump was a wingnut backed by wingnuts and look where we are today.

Harrison Ford Shrug GIF by Star Wars

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Okay, just so I’m clear, the threat of “civil war” that is being made by the generals in the head line is not realistic, though? It is right-wingers saying something to scare an intimidate rather than a legitimate threat that anyone is making? The headline made is seem like there is a reasonable threat that civil war in France might be coming.

Agree about “wingnut”. I will refrain from its use.

It’s as realistic as they want to make it. They are the ones making the barely veiled threat that they will take action if the government does not. It’s france, so it’s sort of has a history of overthrowing their government. The last time there was a shake up over related matters was in 1958, when the 4th republic collapsed to be replaced by the current 5th republic under de Gaulle under military pressure.

So yes, a military coup that leads to the collapse of the current government is entirely possible. Macron will do what he can to stop that form happening so that means “meeting” the racist right “half-way”


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oh and

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