Ernst and Young subjected women employees to "training" about keeping the company's men happy

I’m guessing that the point where they started going wrong was where they felt that women managers were so “different” and “other” that they needed a special segregated leadership course in the first place.

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Another interesting tidbit is how that embarassing score sheet was apparently adapted from the work of Sandra Bem, who’s work attempted to reduce gender stereotypes like these.

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You know, because this is so fucked up, they should implement it in actual management and see in their faces how utterly fucked up it is. Except a lot of women would suffer, so obviously no, don’t ever do this. But what’s it going to take???

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Have a meeting before or after the meeting? What is the point of the meeting then? Women should be exempt from all meetings if they are not supposed to participate in them.

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Or you could do this and be one of the most powerful women in the country.

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The point of these rules is to prevent the creation of powerful women. It’s pretty much a what not to do list if you want power.

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TLDR version- this is a shitty, backwards company that is full of men and enablers with 1950s mentality and little intelligence, pushing bullshit on female employees that should be called out as bullshit.

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Goddamn that’s some offensive bullshit, to women and to men with more than two brain cells to rub together. If there were an afterlife, this Marsha Clark asshole would have a special place in hell, a level reserved for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

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I thought it was the moon that drove these adorable little ladies to a case of the vapors?

That form is unbelievable. On the top it says Masculine/Feminine, but the columns are ordered Feminine/Masculine. How’s anyone supposed to fill that in correctly? The design is broken. Now, what’s everyone else talking about…?

That’s some lovely recursion there

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… since they have the largest average brain volumes!

But that is completely untrue, even with the exclamation and the likes.
People of African descent don’t have the largest average brain volume. Not nearly.
Sometimes reality fails to have its normally obvious liberal bias and even appears to be racist.

Brain size does correlate with intelligence at up to .4, controlling for sex.

There is not weak correlation between brain size, intelligence and amount of Neanderthal / Denisovan ancestral DNA.

After increasing for more than two million years, our (modern human) average cranial size has been massively decreasing since about 28.000 years, by about the volume of a tennis ball.
Yet, since we began testing for intelligence, it has increased, so reality is luckily not that simple.

Moreover, the correlations between common sense and education and intelligence, while existing, seem to be pretty loose. I can’t even guess how morality, honesty or empathy relate to them.

It is racist to pre-judge a person by “their people”.
Every single person has to be judged for itself, or not be judged at all but by their actions.
Reality, in regards to brain size, appears to be racist and sexist to sexist racists. We should still embrace it.

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You’re repeating unsettled science as if it supports sexist and racist points.

As one instance, this chart you provide (below) is claiming that Europeans doing well on standardized European-designed IQ tests represents a neutral measure of base intelligence. This is the scientific equivalent of hot horseshit.

You’re also stripping out any caveats that those findings don’t indicate a specific causal relationship between brain size and intelligence, or the incredibly high degree of individual variation when you’re comparing hard averages.

Science doesn’t support the broad conclusion that you seem to be trying to make, that “intelligence” is dependent on physical variations of sex and race differences.

Physical differences in sex and race have not been found by any scientific consensus to indicate base or potential intelligence.

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Recommended:

It is old, and some of the modern details need updating, but the historical perspective still holds up. Any measure claiming ability to predict “intelligence,” which is a phenomenon we don’t even have a very good definition for, falls on it’s face when objectively evaluated. Considering how much current research is revealing about intelligence in primates, birds and (most interestingly and alien-like) octopuses, I think we need to be very very humble about our ability to measure, or even understand, intelligence.

ETA: Evidence of something like “intelligence” has even been reported in slime molds! Go figure that one.

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What, you think they could be worse?

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Here’s one journalist’s response to the idiocy:

– Men are like muffins: nobody really wants more than one in a meeting. If there are multiple men in a meeting you should appoint one person the Token Speaking Man and ensure he keeps his contribution as succinct and clear as possible.

– Men are like cinna-buns: they can have a very overpowering scent. Keep your cologne professional so as not to distract the ladies.

– Men are like croissants: they can be very flaky. Keep your thoughts on track by writing them down in neat little lists.

– Men’s brains are like bagels: missing a core component. They are just not cut out for leadership in the same way women are. Nevertheless, with enough training they can occasionally make an important contribution.

– Men are like bialys: depressed in the middle. Make an effort to smile more and help brighten up the workplace.

Like I said, this is just a free sample. I’ve got 55 more pages of this.

EY, I am waiting for your call. I cannot wait to put our pancake and waffle brains together and build a batter for a better working world.

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This is the same Marsha Clark who totally blew the prosecution of O.J.Simpson? I don’t think she is equipped to render advice to anyone–on anything.

Time once again to plug Stephen J. Gould’s The Mismeasure of Man.

EDIT: Ninja’ed by the inestimable @anon29537550

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Wait. So, you :heart: someone’s statement that people of African descent have the largest brain volumes.
Would you rather continue believing that?

I’m not farming likes. If I was on a forum with some climate deniers, flat earthers or anti-vaxxers, I would tell them of the actual science on that too, regardless of how unpopular that made me with them. And surely someone would tell me that that science was unsettled science. But that is how science is, or else we could just quit scienceing. The taxonomic classification of some house plants is unsettled.

I agree with everything you wrote here about intelligence.

As a child I observed various strange mycetozoa, brightly neon-colored, roaming the local forest floor hunting and gathering. They HATE potato chips and race towards oatmeal once their ‘scouts’ have discovered it. They avoid sunlight like vampires would, scurry away, duck and hide before a sun’s ray hits them. In slow motion but quick enough. Slime molds were fascinating, observably neither plant nor animal but indigenous local Space-aliens. And they had a yucky name and hardly anybody even knew about these secret forest creatures. Surely they have a hive-mind possessing intelligence.
I was a deprived and weird kid. I still think slime molds are curious, interesting and solve problems they encounter.

To be clear how I feel about that sickeningly misogynistic, underhandedly threatening, brainwashing that Serious und Jung subjected women employees to:
I’m opposed to any death sentences ever, so no public beheadings outside of the court of public opinion. But the guilty should be pilloried and dung thrown at them.

Your earlier post pointed to an alt-Right produced meme graph that supposedly compared IQ tests among indigenous people as evidence. That was deeply racist bullshit. That is not “actual science”.

What you linked to was White Supremacist propaganda.

Take a hint and maybe read the book people are suggesting before making claims about racial intelligence on the internet.

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