Every time there's a mass shooting, gun execs & investors gloat about future earnings

Even for those who don’t want it? I think that’d be a tough sale.

Also note that a decent propellant can be made from sugar and table salt (see “chlorate cell”), though the inorganic residues are quite a bitch, not unlike black powder. Even better synth routes are from air and water (and some organic material which can be plant biomass (glycerol and cellulose for conventional bipropellants, or something entirely else made from any organic/carbon-rich crap by e.g. Fischer-Tropsch), along the lines of microwave variant of Haber-Bosch (with microwaves the reaction runs without need for high temp/pressure) followed with catalytic oxidation (platinum wire capacitor-discharge-exploded in a chunk of ceramic wool could work well here, or just a chunk of the proper part of a car exhaust catalyst sponge), or simpler but energy-hungrier variant of the older Birkeland-Eyde). Both with potential capability of scaling down to desktop-sized microplants and with electrochemical or near-UV/vis/near-IR spectral feedback for the process controller. Some basic (okay, acidic in places) chemistry, some switching power supplies, some optional optics and microcontroller-fu. A very rudimentary version of a more extended framework for on-demand desktop-scale synthesis of complex organic compounds useful for e.g. producing meds for a group of survivalists a secluded area, which itself is a very very very rudimentary ancestor of the holy grail, the molecular assembler.

The overall system will find its balance over time, and is very likely to be more heterogeneous than you seem to be wishing for.

Me too. It’s a good law.

I’m a gun guy, but I don’t find much to fault with our gun laws here in CA.

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Given the inch thick pile of paperwork and month it took me to get a .357 Ruger at the range shop, I don’t disagree.

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I’ve already given numerous examples in this thread of successful (at least for a while), large-scale anarchist social and economic organization. These projects didn’t ultimately fail because they were “utopian,” weren’t organized, or somebody was “greedy,” they failed because they made serious errors, misjudged their opposition, and lost important military and political struggles. Even though some of them are still going strong, I’ll be the first to say that anarchism as practiced in the past can’t work in today’s world. For example, I think that part of why the CNT rose to power (one of my earlier examples) is because capitalism was still very under-developed in Spain at that time. It doesn’t help us learn anything from history by summing it all up with inaccurate cliches.

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Except it does happen. NY, CT, an CO all passed new laws after Newton. It prompted Magpul, one of the top accessory and magazine makers to pull out of CO. The ATF earlier tried to reclassify M855 ammo as armor piercing and only stopped after the outcry. So if you think there hasn’t been attempts, both successful and failed, you are mistaken.

Obviously the UK and Australia passed new laws after they had incidents. Some states are more likely to pas laws than others. Right now the FEDERAL climate doesn’t’ seem too bad, bu that can change with an election cycle.

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These are the end of the world?

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Homage to Catalonia is a terrific book.

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Yeah, those are literal statements of fact and this thread’s fairly disgusting. I’m not even pro gun-ownership and this is pretty awful.

Feinstein’s “turn them all in” quote was in the context of a discussion about why the 1994 assault weapons act only prohibited the manufacture or import of assault weapons instead of the possession and sale of them. So again, even Diane Feinstein only said she’d love to end private ownership of assault weapons (if she could), not all firearms.

Given that you just quoted her out of context as evidence that politicians are fighting to end all private gun ownership I must conclude that you are either “ill-informed, naive, or willfully spreading misinformation.”

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The idea that gun manufacturer’s plan “campaigns” to cash in on gun tragedies is a bit over the top. These execs are talking about sales that have already occurred after the fact of a tragedy. The do see profits in the tragedies, but they don’t need a campaign. The anti-gun side always does bring up the idea of more gun controls and outlawing certain guns—and that is all the campaign that is needed because people who want to be able to own something and fear it might not be available go out to buy it sooner than they might so they are not shut out of ownership. The gun company execs merely reflect (and appreciate) that aspect of human nature. They don’t need to have a “campaign.”

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Umm, I didn’t see any mention of race in this ad. No race-baiting here.

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I suspect that the author didn’t like that the actor chosen was white?
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It’s true. Evil has NEVER needed to advertise to attract.

Ah - you got me. Point to you. I should have checked the context of that quote. The rest of my post is valid. Remember too - my original post never said banning all guns. Just that people talked about banning things. Specific things. Which is one reason for a growth of sales for specific types.

Technically the UK hasn’t banned ALL private gun ownership. Even the Commies didn’t ban ALL private gun ownership in the USSR. Especially if you are were tight with the Party.

But everyone saying we should look more like the UK is basically asking for a very restrictive, small list of allowable fire arms. I don’t own anything weird or outrageous, but under the UK law I would have to turn 7 of the 9 firearms I own. They let me keep the .22 rifle and shot gun.

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They are not “actors.”

You admit to not seeing the world the way I do, yet claim the authority invalidate and over-rule my perspective.

Pass legislation authorizing a private, federal civil action for damages by survivors of gun violence. Base the action on negligence for distributors and strict liability for manufacturers. Include a provision for payment of attorney fees and costs for prevailing plaintiffs.

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Well, thanks for that acknowledgement. In fairness to you, gun rights groups do a pretty thorough job painting Diane Feinstein as some kind of crazed anti-gun she-devil.

Personally I think her position on guns is pretty darn understandable considering that she was present when Dan White assassinated Mayor George Moscone and Councilman Harvey Milk. Imagine walking in to your friend and colleague’s office to find his still-warm body riddled with bullets, then feeling your finger enter the hole in his wrist when you reach to check for a pulse. Ick.

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That’s like saying, “It’s understandable this person would want Arab looking Muslims searched extra good by the TSA because her mom died in the 9/11 attacks.”

While it would be understandable why they FEEL that way, doesn’t mean their response is rational. Brady of course felt the same way from the Reagan assassination attempt. Suzanna Hupp who was present at the Texas Luby’s Restaurant shooting, and who parents were killed, had a much different reaction.

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That’s a bit of a low blow. Even if you think the gun regulations Feinstein proposes are a gross violation of civil rights then at least they violate all citizens’ rights equally.

A less unfair analogy would be “It’s understandable this person would support the TSA making everyone take off their shoes at the airport because her mom died in the 9/11 attacks.”

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By incurring additional costs, they have disproportional impact on the financially challenged demographics. Does that count?