Changing the subject to Cory, and away from Michael Brown is not the brave thing to do.
And telling someone to stop chagingh the topic is NOT defending Cory. Whose name you misspelled. That’s also not defense,. it’s informing ignorance. And that is also NOT what Gideon did here.
I’d love it if Geideon mentioned WHERE the racism he saw was.
Point out the behavior, and stop attacking character. That -would- help. Not what I see many people doing as a calm. considered, reaction to their own emotional state.
I have no issue whatsoever with Gideon’s impulse - but get to the bottom of the thread and it says “you all suck” makes me think his energy is being wasted by insulting most of BB.
I’m totally disgusted by any racism in any form towards any race, colour, creed, whatever.
Yeah, if only he’d kowtowed to their sensibilities and expressed his frustrations in their terms. Nevermind what his sensibilities and terms might be.
Funny how often, and in how many ways, so many seemingly goodhearted white people tell people of color that they’ll only listen to those who talk the way they want them to talk.
OK, whatever. I think you’re dodging the point. This isn’t about kowtowing. I arrived at the thread, I get that there’s been a dispute, I vaguely catch the sense, and recommend don’t call everyone a twat, because it sounds like there’s something to say and the audience will be lost.
This is obviously a highly emotive thread, and sense is being lost. You’re pivoting on a magnetised impulse that insists that any form of contrariness is subverted racism.
As for being a ‘goodhearted white person’ - the rank stench of that phraseology isn’t missed - take that one back.
I’m not being coy, and “she means well” is an interesting comparison. But also a faulty one – when men say such a thing about women, they’re in a power dynamic that has them on top; when POC say it about white people, the power dynamic is the opposite.
Goodhearted white people are sometimes oblivious to racism, to their own white privilege, and to their own inculcated tendencies to sometimes act in unconsciously, obliviously racist ways. They “mean well,” but they also sometimes slip up, and insist, for instance, that POC speak to them on middle-class white terms, rather than on whatever the POCs’ terms might be.
Rare are the white people (and men, and heterosexuals, and so on) who humbly learn something about themselves when others point out such slipups, but they do exist.
As for my own white privilege, I invite you to entertain yourself to the experience of my childhood, and seek therein whatever meagre privilege you can garner.
I know exactly how it feels to be on the receiving end of racism - focused, purposeful, directed racism - both at the brutish, vicious and violent mob end, and at the sophisticated and cultivated end, and in between. I know racism, and it is foul.
How can one slip up if one is genuine and authentic? I know what you’re talking about, but stop pointing your flashlight in my eyes. Don’t dare group me with the Venn segment you’re delineating. It has nothing to do with me, and I also abhor it.
Racism permeates American society, especially the particular vile types aimed at black people; it’s virtually impossible for whites and others, and indeed even blacks, not to absorb it.
Please point out where I said anything about you in particular so I can reconsider it – I can’t find it.
I will say that if you’re a goodhearted white person who learns from his or her occasional slipups (assuming you interact at all with POC), and who knows at least some of the ways that your white privilege is built on top of POC disadvantage, then, sincerely, yay for you!
I wonder if it’s intentional, with the thought that if the black cop shot, there would be less outcry. And the black cop is more likely to shoot, since his is a “less-lethal” weapon.
Lemme tell you, catching a burst from a paintball gun at close range isn’t fun. And if you dial the muzzle velocity way up, it will break ribs.
Your statement implies that you don’t care if bullets rain down on white people. We have all been carefully trained to engage in discourse in this manner.
The facts are that we don’t the facts of this case yet but the media is spinning it into a race issue. Its NOT a race issue, its a government violence issue.
