A fetus cannot survive on its own, nor does it have self-awareness. The Christian Taliban might as well declare cancer a person, too.
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For people living on the Gulf coast this might help, but the logistics would be very difficult. The same reason it would help (all surrounding states have forced-birth laws) makes supplying an offshore clinic a difficult task. Any abortifacient drugs would likely have to be brought by boat >500 miles from the nearest sane state (do we have a term for non-forced-birth states?).
A much more effective, better solution would be putting public clinics on federal land
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at least then that lady gets to use pregnancy as a reason for HOV lane use.
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Exactly! By their logic, having a moth in the car should permit use of the HOV lane because it’s a cluster of cells that fits some definition of life! That moth should have at least as many rights as a corporation, anyway.
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“The world’s biology community is in turmoil today as ‘Henrietta’s Law’ affirms the legal personhood of human-derived immortal cell lines…”
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Adding water to a logistics route is not ideal(except for large volumes, where it’s practically mandatory); but do you have any idea, ballpark numbers, what sort of mass/volume of equipment per patient would be required and what would have the most limiting shelf life?
It would be unlikely to be less expensive than just getting to use normal carriers; but (especially if you could procure the more generic medical supplies by normal means and only need to handle the stuff too closely linked to abortion to be deniable separately) if the packages are dense and have decent shelf life that could shift things from a questionably tenable constant stream of boats to a periodic drop-off by a relatively small and inexpensive vessel.
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Apparently, that’s too much for the Biden administration to handle.
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Turn these floating clinics into churches. Women can travel to these floating churches (let’s call them Arks, just to evoke the story of Noah saving all the beasts of the land from an attempted omnicide) for religious counseling (which is basically limited to “You know that once we perform this procedure it can’t be reversed, right?”) and an abortion. If they try to argue that women shouldn’t be allowed to travel to the Arks hit them with the First Amendment’s right to freedom of religion.
“Why are you against allowing these women to go to the church of their choice for spiritual counseling, Senator?”
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At first, I thought this was a terrible idea. Who’s want to have surgery on a boat?
Then I remember the Royal Caribbean cruise I took where they held an ice-skating show on a boat. There was only one fall in the 45-minute show.
So maybe someone could purchase an unused cruise ship to make this work.
(It’s still a terrible idea, but apparently no one wants to pack the court.)
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Texas wants to have it both ways: it’s a fetus when we say it is and not a fetus when we say it isn’t.
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Like a “bodily autonomy ceremony”
https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/rrr-campaigns
ETA: OneBox didn’t like it.
The Satanic Temple’s religious abortion ritual exempts TST members from enduring medically unnecessary and unscientific regulations when seeking to terminate their pregnancy. The ritual involves the recitation of two of our Tenets and a personal affirmation that is ceremoniously intertwined with the abortion. Because prerequisite procedures such as waiting periods, mandatory viewing of sonograms, and compulsory counseling contravene Satanists’ religious convictions, those who perform the religious abortion ritual are exempt from these requirements and can receive first-trimester abortions on demand in states that have enacted the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
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These were pre-dated by offshore bars, to circumvent Prohibition.
One of which resurfaced a few years ago.
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Stop demonizing Muslims, please; even strict Sharia law makes some allowances for abortion, whereas the Fundie Xtian Zealots make none.
They are even worse than the Taliban.
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But that still falls flat if the “crime” isn’t a crime in the destination state. It would be illegal for a state with a drinking age of 21 to prosecute someone for taking a 19 yo to a state where that’s the legal drinking age.
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Currently the U.S. Navy has two hospital ships, the USNS Mercy and USNS Comfort, with 12 operating rooms each. I’m guessing in very rough weather some of those operating rooms would be shut down. If the whole room was on a heavy-duty shock absorber system that might help stabilize it for emergency use even under those conditions. [I don’t know if such a system exists or is in use on hospital ships.]
But a floating abortion clinic might be able to offer more pharmacological procedures rather than surgical ones.
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They’ve effectively done so already. See molar pregnancy.
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Isn’t the Mississippi governed by federal law… a boat on an interstate trip would be…
That’s the same reason that you can have floating casinos… how about Native American land? Not necessarily subject to state law…
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IANAL, least of all in nuances of interstate law in the US, but this lawyer in Texas seemed confident his strategy would work.
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Our RWNJs get more confident the farther they stray from reality.
Meanwhile, the lawyers in the OP are pretty confident, too.
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Free states?
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