Forgotten for 13 years, folks are upset by Disney+ pulling "Avatar" from its catalog

But that’s all of them… :thinking:

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Wow, I never knew any of this but it makes total sense. Everyone knows the names of Star Wars characters. I can’t remember any of the individual characters in Avatar. I do remember Aliens much better than I remember Avatar, and in fact Aliens was a bit of a professional inspiration for me.

Cameron is far more successful in life than I ever will be, so I’m obviously not in any position to criticize, but I won’t let that stop me. Really, aspiring to do better than Star Wars? The first two Star Wars movies were ok, but after that it’s just become a franchise for re-using characters, hiring cheap actors, and using cheap CGI to avoid having to pay more skilled actors and writers.

But yeah, Avatar was even less of a movie than Star Wars .

Hearing that jumped out at me while watching The Core, too. :grimacing:

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Like the franchise or hate it you can’t deny Star Wars has had a profound and lasting cultural impact in a way that few if any other films have before or since.

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Avatar was a scene for scene remake of FernGully: The Last Rainforest, except without the over-the-top talents of Tim Curry or Robin Williams.

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I’ll never forget Avatar as long as I live. It came out a year after my youngest child was born. Sometimes the only way to get that kid to settle down was to turn on Avatar. They watched it so much I had to buy a second disc just because I was scared the first would get lost or damaged and then I’d be screwed. Over and over, every day… Avatar. I’m so glad they grew out of that. :rofl:

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The ability to watch and re-watch and re-watch films at home really changed how people interact with the stories. A story you can experience over and over can become much more of a part of your psyche than one you see once or twice, which then gets overlaid with a new story.
The young women I worked with at one job had really hooked into Disney princess identities, even though they were in their 20s when I knew them. This is also seen in the Harry Potter fandom-people in their 30s and 40s still really hooked into that storyspace. (Aside from the hateful actions of the author, the books themselves are just not that great).
I would argue that watching a movie can be a more immersive experience than reading, so do it over and over again can have more of an effect. Do fans re-read or re-watch or do both?

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It must really bug him, then, that his best film was a sequel to somebody else’s ground-breaking work—that his legacy is basically to be a footnote in Ridley Scott’s Wikipedia article :thinking:

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To quote Sarah Connor’s friend, “in a hundred years who’s gonna care? :woman_shrugging:t3:

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Oakley’s ad copy was calling the rubber nose and ear pieces on their sunglasses “unobtanium” in, like, 1991. (And I have an old pair of Oakleys where the rubber has gotten all sticky, so it wasn’t even a super great version of rubber)

I have it on multi (pass) disc…

sometimes (always) seems to seize up in the player (it must be old-getting on)…

I’m actually with you on this.

But for a movie I want to see, I will mitigate the risks and go. I’m inoculated and wear a mask the whole time. And the time of day matters. When I went to see Dune, there were maybe 4 people in the theatre - so I think it can be safe. At least where I am and to my comfort levels.

Good luck. I’ve done everything “right” over the past couple years whenever I go out (vaxxed, boosted, almost never go to restaurants, obsessively hand wash and/or sanitize, and always wear a high-quality mask that doesn’t get removed unless absolutely necessary). I still managed to catch COVID earlier this week and now I’m paying the price. The current variants going around are no joke.

There’s still a few events I’ll be going to this year that have been in the queue for months or years in some cases, but I’ll definitely be thinking twice before doing nonessential things like seeing movies — especially when movies can just as easily be watched at home.

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Put in the vault with the head of Walt!* The Disney Vault: Disney Vault - Wikipedia
*Link is just about Disney Vault practices, no frozen figureheads…or so they say.

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For me, at least, I think that’s what actually makes the ‘forgettability’ aspect so interesting.

Forgetting movies that just aren’t very good, and don’t make a break for ‘so bad it’s good’ is trivial and we do it all the time without comment. What I found remarkable about Avatar is that I remember enjoying it, remember the effects being markedly well done and the rest at least serviceable or better; but stuff I’d normally remember just started sliding out of my skull practically as the credits rolled.

If everyone had found it lousy and forgettable that would be utterly unremarkable; it’s that the consensus was generally positive; yet it managed to spawn essentially zero references/jokes/obligatory quotes for specific situations/etc. Nothing along the lines of “I know a few maneuvers”/“It’s the only way to be sure”/etc.

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I get that. Take care and get well soon!

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Came here to say this. Pleased to see it already here.

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Wait, does this mean that the film “Once” was forgotten immediately upon release?

I remember a lot about it, because I’ve watched it multiple times. I also like a lot of the actors in it, so there was an association with other performances they’d already done and it jumps out at me when I see them in new roles. It’s true that there weren’t many pop culture references or lines like in other blockbusters, though. :thinking: That could be due to the content, some of the shorter ones were ableist or offensive. The rest were mostly very long.

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