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After decades of the NRA and their GOP minions pushing “not enough guns,” don’t even fucking trot out the argument that now that there are so many, there’s no way to regulate them. Don’t even.

And here it is again: the “no true Scotsman” trope that gun advocates pull out every time this happens. This guy was a NRA poster-boy until he started raining lead on innocents on the Las Vegas Strip, and now he’s a nutso, lone wolf, pure evil. Guess what: he’s yours. This is exactly what one of millions of “safe and respectable” gun owners becomes when that one stops being so safe or so respectable. He’s yours; own it.

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But… they are using it accordance with the original intention of gun manufacturers and designers : killing people. Gun are designed to kill people. You don’t need to kill people.

Stop nitpicking. It’s exhausting and useless to the point, I will now say rapid boom boom machine. The simple fact he can have rapid boom boom machine is the problem. All of those things should be illegal.
Accordingly to ABC :

“Even though civilians are banned from buying or selling fully automatic weapons made after 1986, individuals can legally possess older weapons after passing a background check and obtaining a special permit.
There are about 176,000 pre-1986 machine guns registered with the US government that can be legally transferred, and they typically cost tens of thousands of dollars.”
Las Vegas shooting: These were the guns used in America's worst shooting in modern history - ABC News

You don’t need to contemplate this problem hopelessly, regulation is the first part of the solution.
It will not stop gun violence and it will not stop mass shooting but it will slow them down and maybe in the long term bring them to a level more comparable to a comparable country.
I made a quick calculation : in 2014 the US had proportionally 4,2 times more gun related death than France. (33594 death in the US, 1594 in France).

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However, here’s an observation that may well be relevant: most people can’t evaluate risks for themselves, instead relying on laws to tell them how to think.

This is no idle speculation; after thirty years of utterly ridiculous mandatory bicycle helmet legislation in Australia, the average Australian is under the impression that normal cycling is some sort of extreme sport, and anyone who rides a bike without a helmet must have a death wish.

And when I inform folks that they face double the risk of a serious head injury when riding in a car, I’m rarely even met with disbelief; it just tends to go in one ear and out the other, without even registering.

So if legislation was to be passed in the US transforming gun ownership from a right to a heavily-regulated privilege, you’d be fucking amazed just how many more people would end up considering that to be perfectly natural state of affairs than currently do.

Scratch a ‘rugged individualist’, and you’ll likely see a bootlicking authoritarian lurking under the paint. We know how these turkeys ‘think’; it’s about time sensible people started exploiting that.

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Gun insurance must become mandatory.

Insurance companies won’t tolerate the blackout on gun violence statistics

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I really like those proposals. Good for business too which should get the Republicans on side.

All those new insurance policies (presuming each gun needs to be insured and registered, rather than just insuring the owner).

Mind you - registering and inspection sounds like MOAWR GUV’MINT, so no chance.

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Oh they would. As long as they get access to the actual figures, they’d be quite happy for no one else to.

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NRA already offers “Kill Somebody” insurance. Talk about profiting off of arming america.

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I have often wondered…why has this not happened at an NRA convention or gun show? The obvious answer is “well…every is armed, too easy to defend”…

However, most of the perpetrators of these acts don’t seem to mind being killed in the process. Is it more that those individuals idolize and revere or are even card carrying members of the NRA and supporters of all they espouse?

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It might be hard to imagine what would stop this guy. Norway is a country where many categories of guns are banned, but they still had Anders Breivik. The difference is that Brevik, by his massacre, tripled or quadrupled the typical number of annual murders in the country.

“Gun control won’t work” and “This is the price of freedom” are the gun-loving right’s equivalents of “Those coal jobs are never coming back” and “The economy is actually doing well.”

One day there’s going to be a reckoning for smug dismissal of people who don’t know how suppressors work, for pointing out you can buy guns on the dark net, for ignoring the problem in favour of answering peoples words.

It’s time for the experts to offer a solution instead of a dismissal. The answer can’t just be that America is a shit country that can’t do what every other developed country does.

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And why do you think that is?

Hint: it’s not because the car lobby pushed for the reduction or elimination of any and all safety regulations surrounding the manufacture, distribution, and use of automobiles.

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They already jail and kill us with impunity, dude.

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Because Ralph

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Having watching @Mister44 fight these battles for many years now, I can say he listens, and replies, and uses real information and real cites - and when he makes a mistake, he acknowledges and amends. This makes him significantly more honest and intellectually rigorous than 99% of the people he argues against, as well as 99% of the people arguing on his side.

People of good will with profound disagreements have the opportunity to gain additional insight on real issues from a perspective other than their own, if they can just exercise a tiny amount of simple kindness. Manners are the lubricant that makes multicultural societies work.

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You’re saying he’s a1%-er ?

Hint: they aren’t generally known for their broad- minded world view.

Yeah, but there’s usually room for escalation.

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There always is.

That doesn’t mean that giving up/doing nothing is a viable option.

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An Abby normal!

the word is Plantain

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Obviously, I’m not familiar with Fox Business, but why is this on Fox Business?

It had nothing to do with business!

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