Fox News poll shows Trump losing to any warm body

Maybe on her website, but I didn’t see much of that on the campaign trail from her. We saw lots of that from Sanders and Warren, even during those relatively chaotic debates. Granted, I didn’t go to any of her rallies, where she may have done that, but if you’re going to a rally, you’re more than likely already committed to the candidate. And the only things that tend to get on TV are some of the best lines, which tend not to be policy discussions. I didn’t see much of that elsewhere, not nearly as much as I would have liked.

Not really. It’s more of the “what are they doing to show the voters that they have workable plans to deal with their real world issues.” No one is entitled to votes. These guys got to earn them.

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Certainly most of the attention on detail was sucked out of the air by the media’s obsession with Trump, but she was the biggest policy wonk to run for President since Dukakis.

No one is entitled to votes.

I absolutely agree with this, but likewise as candidates they don’t really owe us anything; as citizens we have the agency. It is our responsibility to decide on the better candidate then vote for them, since we’re the ones who suffer most if they lose.

She was a smart, well-versed candidate, for sure. But her wonkiness did not come through. Granted, that’s not entirely on her, given the nature of our modern mass media, but she (and her campaign) bear some responsibility for that as well.

Yes, I believe they do. They work for us, we pay their salaries and put them in office. They owe us their hard work and some honesty with regards to working towards their stated policy goals.

And when they don’t do their jobs, we vote them out. But due to a number of factors, that’s not really how things have been working these past couple of decades. Both parties are far more responsive to monied interests, instead of to their constituents. That needs to change, or we’re all fucked.

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As long as he’s only up against one candidate and they don’t do anything stupid, Trump would lose to a sausage in 2020.

Let’s get real, okay? A warm sausage.

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“Possumbly lose!!!”

they have my vote!

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Here’s an annotated HRC stump speech. From the notations:

[Clinton talks frequently about her plans. She’s been rolling out policy papers, fact sheets and proposals since the very beginning of her campaign. Often in speeches, she talks about people mocking her for having so many plans, but she goes on to say the plans and details are important because these issues are important for people’s lives. If her campaign motto weren’t “Stronger Together” it might well be “Hillary Clinton: I have a lot of plans.”]

The problem was that that election wasn’t about issues, so her various proposals got lost in the “lock her up” noise. The same thing happened to Dukakis, whose plans got drowned out by Willie Horton and the tank photo. There’s a lesson there for today’s candidates.

Not while they’re candidates. Once they’re in office they’re our employees, and they should behave as such. Until them they’re like any other job applicant.

Since I wrote „[…] to me“ and you wrote „I only see […]“ I think we’re good.

Really though, from my personal non US citizen perspective, returning to business as usual with bullshit „hope“ under some democrat sock puppet before the next GOP madman comes to power doesn’t necessarily seem all that preferable to the whole US dominated system going to shit in a few more years under Trump so something better can rise from its ashes.

I would much prefer Sanders or Warren to that scenario though.

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Leave his sex life out of this.

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The “Dictatorial” College won’t let him lose. They’re forgetting the Russian and North Korean votes.

I’m inclined to agree save for two facts:

  1. he US has the proven capability to cause widespread death and destruction outside of our borders when the people making military decisions are ignorant fools with ulterior motives. I have a feeling that 4 more years of 45 will mean a war in Iran and another possible proxy war with China in the Pacific.
  2. The judge appointees being made means a compromised judicial branch for a generation.
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US supported or caused death and destruction happens constantly anyway, and the only ways I see it ending is either through sane people coming to power in the US (and managing to hold office without getting killed themselves) or through the US continuing to gamble away their global influence piece by piece under incompetent leadership like it is doing right now.

I don’t see it ending under another democrat lackey for big business, be they named Clinton or Biden. Trump is such a festering wart on humanity that even the cowards in the EU (my own esteemed leaders) cannot pretend for things to be normal. No problem with a „centrist“ democrat there though.

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Your tears are … still toxic.

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I think you pretty much nailed it right there. Most of us yanks should have their ego checked a little bit and realize our “global influence” is based on our ability to help other countries. Not shut them out.

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That would certainly qualify as the exact polar opposite of Martin Luther’s conception of the Protestant doctrine while sitting on a privy.

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That, and your ability to blow them to pieces and fuck them up for generations without so much as setting foot on their soil.

As for having your ego checked, I have so far met many Americans personally for whom this doesn’t apply, very level headed pleasant people. I really feel for you for having to live under your current leadership and state of society.

Edit: Just to be clear, I don’t want to appear smug here. I could be writing books about the wrongs in my own country and people which range from embarrassing to scary. It’s just that globally, no one needs to give much of a fuck, as our time of power is long past and no one here has their finger on any trigger that matters.

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