They could make the maximum allowable size of carry-on bags a bit smaller so that all bags will fit even if everyone uses the maximum size on a full flight.
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They could also have assigned bin spaces as well. 24F gets their own space, as does 24G. And 24G doesn’t get to put their shit in 23A’s space, even if it is empty.
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“And she reckons that raw-dogging allows young men, in particular, the chance to showcase their ability to handle solitude and discomfort with stoicism.”
Incel. She’s describing an incel.
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I fly enough to have status and often get upgraded, and this is the perk I least understand, outside of bin space. I will do anything I can to reduce my time on the plane.
I’m with you. But my partner is super stressed about the crowd until she is in her non-aisle seat. It baffles me that her response to hating crowds is to stand in one, but that’s what she needs to do.
And, have common sense numbering. Delta has gotten better about this recently, but not long ago I was sitting next to a couple who were in boarding group 2. When First Class was called to board, they got up to move to the gate, since they thought they were next.
But first class isn’t group 1, and “Group 2” was about 6 groups deep, what with all the various status levels, “Comfort +”, and what not before Group 1.
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“Gate Lice” I think it’s a GREAT term, and will immediately use it to describe those individuals who congregate around the unopen doors outside of trams and underground carriages, blocking the exit of those inside.
The only thing that I can imagine stopping this kind of behaviour (apart from universal enlightenment) is forcing people to queue at the door points, as they do in Japan. But until then I’ll shame them verbally.
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Same here. My policy is to be the absolute last person on the plane. Then I can tell the assembled flight attendants, “FSogol is here. Tell the pilots to prepare to take off. Thank you for everything,” as I wave to the smucks in 1st class.
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They should lower the floor in the airplane so more luggage can fit under the seats.
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Water curtain to dissuade boarding out of turn?
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Surely nobody believes that if airlines start charging for carry-on bags, they’ll stop charging for checked baggage. That isn’t at all how they work. They’ll add a charge for carry-ons as a new revenue stream. They could charge more for carry-ons than for checked bags, which would alleviate the problem somewhat, but there’s no way they’re going to give up potential revenue.
Me, I always travel without any checked bags if possible, because I don’t want to risk losing luggage and I sure as hell don’t want to wait at the carousel; I want to grab my stuff and get out of the airport. I’m going on a three-week overseas trip next year and if everything I need can’t fit into a small wheeled overhead bag and a knapsack that fits under the airplane seat, then I’m not doing it right.
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how about we NEVER compare people to bugs. That has a long, violent, and sorted history that has resulted in millions dead. It’s NEVER cool to dehumanize people like that. Ever. Just don’t.
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I take your point, but I think there’s a difference between referring to entire populations, and using the term to refer to individuals who are behaving in an egregious, manifestly selfish and stupid way. Even calling them “idiots” is arguably misusing a clinical term, and an abuse of mental health concerns. There must be a need for some pejorative terms.
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Yeah same. I was thinking about what a reversal it is too. Like we are sucking the blood of the airline and not the other way around.
But in fact it feels a lot more like cattle lining up for a pneumatic hammer.
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Perhaps it’s just me, but I seem to notice that the attendants say you’re allowed one carry on and one personal item and the personal item has to fit below the seat in front of you, yet I see people bring on a roller and a large, overstuffed backpack, and they shove everything in the overhead. I understand how airlines need to make money and turnarounds/schedules are key so attendants don’t have time to police everybody, but at least ‘trying’ to enforce the rules might be helpful.
Since I usually travel for business, I only have one bag, which is a backpack with my clothes, laptop and all necessities. My company pays for economy only, so it is very stressful because I really can’t check my bag if overhead space is full. I can’t pull out my laptop, all my medications, etc. as I don’t have a different bag to put it in. My backpack is too big to put under the seat. I just wish people would be courteous. Put your one bag in the overhead space and wait until boarding is complete, then put your extra bag overhead if there is space.
I think people have simply lost respect for other people and it’s depressing. I am very glad that I don’t need to fly nearly as often as I used to.
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Even that is a slippery slope. Maybe you feel justified in dehumanizing people because of their behavior, but it’s STILL dehumanizing people. Just… don’t do it. We have plenty of perfectly cromulent terms for people acting like jerks that isn’t doing that. Jerks. Assholes. Dicks. Jackass. Dipshits. 
Use one of the many lovely profanities we have that aren’t employing nazi language.
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But they’re not idiots or even selfish. They are acting rationally given the circumstances aren’t they? Assuming for any reason you NEED to carry on a bag you know you need to get there before the competition.
Why is there competition?
Especially when everybody’s bags and tickets are checked over and over again before boarding even begins. Is it because people who try to take care of themselves are assholes and idiots?
Nah… it’s not. Sorry but it’s just not.
The airline just wants you to shut up and give them money. They’re not the good guys here.
And I say this as some one who obsesses over not needing more than a backpack/handbag to carry on under my seat even on international flights and who will pay up to the price of a 1st class ticket to ship items rather than fly with them unless I’m comfortable never seeing them again or replacing them. I do this because I am selfish. I selfishly take responsibility for my own wants and needs so as not to have to deal with something unpleasant, but not because I’m a superior human.
When I look at the cluster I see mostly anxious tired looking faces.
When anxious tired people have to compete for limited resources suddenly for some people it is justifiable to see them as subhuman and yet, with introspection, I don’t really see how that is any less selfish or idiotic than being one of them.
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Our new “Bop a prole” program entitles all first class passengers to smack the business or economy class passenger of their choice on the head with their meal tray; and all business class passengers to smack the economy class passenger of their choice on the head with their meal tray.
In the spirit of majestic equality all economy class passengers are also entitled to smack the economy class passenger of their choice on the head with their meal tray; but no meals are served in economy class.
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Idiot was an insult long before it was a clinical term, made such by a eugenicist. And “lice” happens to be a particularly bad choice of insect here. Like if someone talked about “gate moths”, drawn to the gate like moths are to lights, I don’t think you’d see quite the same opposition to the term…but lice has always meant an infection to be eliminated. You can look up “nits breed lice” if you ever need to feel sick.
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I can totally see how gate workers get annoyed by this behavior. I’ve seen them need to shoulder past people to get to someone wanting to gate check their bags in those hectic minutes right before boarding.
But this is one of those things that can easily be solved by better design and better policies. On top of all the baggage-related stuff, they can cordon off areas at the gate to ensure workers can quickly get out from behind the kiosk as needed. I think gate agents could and would solve it if they were empowered to do so.
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