General Sportsball thread

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Its the half way point of the EFL League Two season, how are things going?

Stevenage in second place, Carlisle in fourth, Barrow in seventh. Hang on, has someone got the table upside down?

Seriously though, Leyton Orient look like they are going to finish top, and maybe break a few records along the way. They could probably lose every game they have left and still not be relegated, although looking at the bottom of the table you could also say that about any of the top seven teams.

As for the bottom half of the table, Crypto FC have got rid of their new manager after only three games! How many times do I have to say that NFTs are not a good way to run a sports team?

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BBC News - Pele: Brazil football legend dies aged 82

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World Cup Yes GIF by FIFA

RIP, GOAT!

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Fuck Cancer

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Fuck her too, although she doesn’t deserve anything like cancer.

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Football fans that pretend that the game isn’t rough on players bodies (and would let their kids play the game) shocked after player nearly died on field during an nationally broadcasted game

Don’t worry, as predicted the idiots came along with their theories

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Man
 shut the fuck up.

You knew this was a dangerous game so stop lying

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Good brief explainer of what probably happened

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I have never in my life heard a football fan even imply this. Quite the opposite; they’re the most aware of the impact of the sport aside from the players themselves. And yeah, the players make a lot of money, but they got there after more than a decade of hard work and dedication to something they love. And almost no one makes it to the level of the nfl; they almost all play for free or scholarships. Or, you know
 because they love the game and have volition and wouldn’t choose anything else. Part of honoring and uplifting this young man is respecting his will and decisions.

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Coverage of a big international breakdancing competition

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Athletes collapsing on the field from heart issues? I can think of a couple football (no-USian) players who had that happen. Confirmation bias (and huffing their own farts) makes conservatives look so stupid.

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Then why the hell do they support it by watching it?

It sickens me to see that sport’s fans act like little Roman emperors, getting a thrill at some especially brutal, crippling hit, and yes, overlooking the lifelong impacts of many brutal, crippling, brain-rattling hits. Like boxing, the sport and its fandom enact some horrible, childish elements of toxic masculinity. (And yes, I know some women are also blithely cruel enough to like both sports.)

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This is the biggest thing. I love football, I played football, I would never let my kids do it. The morbidity associated with it is virtually 100%, recent studies have shown CTE in almost 100% of NFL players who donated their brains for study. The scary thing to me is the incidence in college and HS players is not a whole lot different (although the n is much smaller, and the number of players is exponentially greater.) I do not see a way forward for this sport without absolutely huge structural changes. The price in human suffering is just way too great. Ryan Shazier’s paralysis on what looked like a routine hit brought it home to me just how dangerous this has become. The size, speed and impact that modern players generate is unreal, and we are seeing HS player in the same size range as big NFL players were just a decade or so ago. Something has to change. The Pro Bowl this year will be played as flag football. Maybe that’s the way it goes? Of course, just like NASCAR, the risk and bloodshed is a big part of the attraction for certain fans. And I cannot for the life of me understand this.

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You’ve accomplished many things,dedicated your life to helping others, it’s not at all surprising you don’t find the need to see others risk their life to help forget what you haven’t gotten in yours?

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But it wasn’t a “brutal, crippling, brain-rattling hit.” It was a totally normal impact that happens every week in every one of the nearly 1,000 minutes of play. People are learning about CTE and how to prevent it and the NFL did an abysmal job trying to pretend it away, but most injuries, while devastating to the player because they may not be able to play at that level any longer, are musculoskeletal. What happened yesterday is unprecedented (at least as far as anyone’s reporting and I certainly don’t remember anything like it). Meanwhile, the fastest growing sports feature men and women literally punching and kicking each other in the heads until they either pass out from brain trauma or give up in agony. Football is more dangerous than most sports, but all sports are dangerous (this particular injury is most common Little League baseball and hockey and is often fatal). But injuries are incidental to football, not crucial to it like boxing or MMA. No one is unaware of this risk or coerced into it.

And that’s exactly it. This will cause change. Hell, even suspending the game is a major step forward as that never happens for injury.

It’s ridiculously reductive to say that fans are there for the bloodshed when the universal response has been one of support and fear for this young man’s health. No one wanted the game to go on.

People like football for the same reasons they like any sport (even here on BBS as there’s an entire thread dedicated to it). There are issues with football that need to be fixed. But this was an extraordinary and unprecedented circumstance that was dealt with properly by suspending the game and getting the other players mental health services.

Edited to correct “musco-skeletal” to “musculoskeletal”. I knew it didn’t sound right.

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In football, as far as I can tell, yes. It has happened in baseball and softball a few times, generally from a line drive catching the pitcher in the chest. Commotio cordis is a known and recognized thing in medicine, rarely seen but frequently discussed.

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