Aww come on. Let’s be honest here. For the most part they aren’t reading BB so the fallout is pretty much negligible. And for those of them that do, nothing written here could possibly make them disdain the libtards more. That’s a bit like saying reading Tevye and his Daughters would have made Hitler even more anti-semitic.
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Are you suggesting that the liberal media has just been ignoring stories about all the GOOD outcomes that have resulted from people bringing guns into churches? Because if there are any stories like that out there I’m genuinely curious to hear them.
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If what you are referencing is 1) a rush to judgement, 2) groupthink dynamics, 3) piling on, then I am all in with you. A desire for thoughtful and nuanced discourse is ever welcome. Your $0.02 is worth exactly the same as mine.
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The shooting puts a new spin on the age old “loaded” question: when did you stop shooting your wife?
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They knew what they were getting in to.
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It was 3x back in the 90s, but there were fewer than 1/3 of the firearms in the USA back then, so…
Too bad the CDC isn’t allowed to keep up with the statistics.
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Agreed, there won’t be too many of the “death to libtards” crowd perusing BB. I think the “counter-productive” damage I’m thinking of is not from that, but from the secondary sources (other web sites, dicussion forums, public forums/demonstrations, schools, etc.) where some people from BB may reproduce/regurgitate the responses/behaviors they see here. You know, like we all do, sometimes, but in ways I regularly see many of my friends and family do. In this manner, I think this sort of article helps perpetuate the behaviors I’m talking about (ie. namecalling, finger-pointing, vilifying…basically, a complete lack of empathy) by normalizing and reinforcing them here, to be later repeated elsewhere. When they see these behaviors being repeated elsewhere, I think conservatives rightly get a bit ornery regarding “libtards”…and I think the liberals who behave like this kind of earn their ire.
OK now you have graduated from concern driving trollies to regular driving trollies.
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I think the pro-gun advocates have a much more nuanced of the issue. For example, if the shooter is a “Mooslum” the solution is extreme vetting. If the shooter is black, the cause is “Obama.” If the shooter is Latino, the response should be the immediate construction of a 2,000-mile wall. And on the “rare” occasion that the shooter is white, there is nothing that could be done to prevent it.
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Not often that a poster’s BB name serves as a warning of what’s to come.
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The needless polarization started in the late 80’s when the NRA became a lobbying firm for gun manufacturer’s and aligned itself with the GOP. I own guns, have my Maryland license, and they sicken me with their lies and bullshit. This article is fine. It points out exactly why we need stricter gun laws and licensing requirements, which the vast majority of Americans agree with, despite a vocal and wealthy minority with lobby I Nguyen power.
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As several commenters have already described - it is completely possible to be both pro-responsible gun ownership and in favor of better regulations around them.
There are quite a few of us who convinced that it is only though a nuanced and (perhaps (the horror) compromising) centrist approach to this issue, that we’ll ever make sorely needed change in this area in a growing, diverse and (possibly?) modernizing country of 320+ million individuals.
Frankly, it could easily be taken that is you who are subtlety introducing a polarizing take on this news item by insisting that the issue be couched (or by implication, can only be received) in a 1-dimensional “liberal/conservative” spectrum.
One of the things that makes BB a fascinating and dynamic community, a venue of great intrigue and often vibrant conversation, is that there is tendency around here - (as anywhere populated with free-thinking people), for a healthy degree of skepticism towards an overly simplistic view of necessarily complex issues. The map is not the territory.
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I am reminded of Suicide Bomb Trainer in Iraq Accidentally Blows Up His Class
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Before looking that up, I assumed it was The Onion.
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The world is an ironic place 
Laws and regulations aren’t the problem. The problem is that a lot of Americans are obsessed with killing. So much even, that ‘I’ll kill you’ has turned into an all-American stock-phrase. That and ‘fuck’. Fuck and kill. No other culture is quite like it.
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I live in the U.S., and I never hear people say that.
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