Getting deplatformed from Apple. “Your account has been permanently disabled. There is nothing else you can do, there is no escalation path.”

What prevented you from giving them the files? Or was this before 2009?

I think the analogy is that if your grandma gifted you a stereo off the back of a truck then police come and confiscate your entire music collection, brick your blender and your oven for good measure. And there are no courts.

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I see what you did.

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it wasn’t a questionable source, if you read both articles. they sell iTunes gift cards at Walgreens, too.

try the “find in page” option from the browser drop-down menu

It’s almost like you are misunderstanding on purpose. Your reply is in exact contradiction to what I said. What is the point?

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And what about your heirs?

Your grandma could have bought it from a garage sale. “Oh, we barely ever used it, it’s like new.”
It wouldn’t be any less stolen from someone, but there would be no way grandma would know.

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I still wanna know what this website is and why they were selling stolen gift cards. Seems shady.

All I can see in the article is “popular discount website” (What is the other article? The quartz article points to a few other apple-related articles, but not to another about this incident that I can see). Granted, that could be Walgreens, but my assumption still is that they mean a ‘gray-market’ card re-seller.

That is something like G2A is for pc games. A lot, probably most, are legit users, but it also makes for a very convenient way for scammed/stolen cards/keys to get redistributed.

Between the ‘It’s the IRS/CRA, you owe us, send gift card plz’ and ‘hi it’s a me, your b0ss, I need gift cardz asap’ scams that seem to only want itunes gift cards, there’s a lot of fraudulent gift cards floating around.

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Use your search engine of choice for “resell gift cards” and there are lots of options. All are probably legit, but they do make for a convenient way to off-load ill-gotten cards.

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Apple is way too restrictive and incompetent to have ban hammers, it not like they don’t have enough money to review these issues. This is how government regulation happens.

Telling me “there is nothing you can do…there is no escalation path” pretty much guarantees that I would never quit until I get what I want. “look you little prick, you have NO idea what I can do”

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Oops, Didn’t mean to reply directly to you on that last post. Thought I was replying to the article.

Anyway, I get this, but find it deficient. You’re saying I have to bring two phone with me on vacation.

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You could alternate between GoG and Steam.

The next release of MacOSX will disable much of my game library, if I should choose to install it.

That… doesn’t sound right?

I have all my music stored locally (iTunes purchases and old-timey ripped music), and it’s never been a problem. When they introduced Apple Music they asked if I wanted to use it, and I said “no”, and that was it; there’s now even an option to hide its existence in the Music app.

I realize most people find these options too boring to read up on the details, and that’s fair enough, but if you are going to click “yeah fine whatever” any time Apple asks you about changing something, then obviously you’re going to get whatever they think is the sensible default. And putting stuff in the cloud probably is the right default, because I think many people don’t have enough storage otherwise, and I know most people don’t make their own backup arrangements.

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Okay, I made a versos stupid mistake when reading your first comment I replied to. I read it as if Apple had somehow deleted/offloaded CDs you ripped onto your desktop instead of what you clearly wrote: That you purchased music from iTunes and burned those to disc, as it was allowed back then. Operating under this false assumption your reply made no sense to me, please accept my apologies.

What I don’t quite understand is why that music would vanish and not get synced on your phone. Really.

Apple dropped DRM on Music in 2009, i think. iTunes Match started late 2011, as a service to distribute your Music Library via iCloud, by literally uploading your files 1:1 unless they have a matching title in their iTunes Store. In which case they would not upload them, but give you their version of that song when you download those. (Which lead to some unfortunate substitutions, when used had ripped explicit version from CDs but got tame/self-censoired version from the store when they downloaded on other devices.) Those were all without DRM, at least.

Next came Apple Music in 2015, which is a generic streaming service, where music you rent is protected by FairPlay DRM and can only be played on authorized devices linked to your account. Can be downloaded and played even without internet connectivity for a while, but will stop working and eventually vanish when Apple’s streaming rights expire.

Apple Music has no impact on iTunes Match. I use both, the worst I have to endure that I occasionally have to tell iTunes to upload 3rd party MP3s to iCloud. But I can still sync all titles which are not part of music manually via iTunes. I do it regularly from macOS Mojave to an ancient iPhone 3gs and and likewise ancient iPod Nano my kid is allowed to used. Also an iPad Air 2 which is registered to a different Apple ID (though uses the same for the App Store), which isn’t registered as an active, authorized device for any of Apple’s Music service.

I actually wrote all this to see where my mistake in understanding your problem is, but I simply don’t get how you ended up in your situation due to anything done by Apple.

Except perhaps unpublishing. Back way before 2009, when iTunes Music Store started, Apple didn’t allow multiple downloads of a purchased title, due to I believe licensing issues. When you bought and downloaded titles, it was your responsibility to keep backups, if only by burning them to disc. If you had troubles and wrote a sob story, support would reset your download counter.

No, if you don’t have two trusted devices you can register another trusted phone number. Like that of your Partner. Your mom. Your landline.

If you bring your iPhone as your only trusted device and use also use that iPhone number as the only way to access this trusted device, you aren’t asking for trouble, but you’ll get it. Like locking all your spare keys in your house and then then expect to be able to get them when you lose your key.

I know that google has recovery codes you could theoretically bring with you on a piece of paper, but no, thank you. Such information belongs in a safe, either a physical one or at least heavily encrypted. But if you go to that trouble, you might as well register secondary phone numbers.

You speak like an engineer who has all the answers on how to ascend a set of stairs without having realised the people you’re designing for use wheels.

I am likely to be travelling alone and anyhow, my Mother is dead. But I would like to hear your advice on bringing a landline on vacation to a foreign country.

You seem to be suggesting that I have to phone someone - on some other phone while in a foreign country - a trusted someone, to get the code that makes everything so secure in this loverly system. If that’s the case, why can’t I just call Apple and have them verify me? There’s secure and then there’s usable.

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My cats are only interested in the weird jazz.

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