Glenn Greenwald was cancelled from the Harper's Letter warning about "cancel culture"

Enough with these boilerplate takes.

Which of these are you asking for?

  1. People who do bigoted and misogynistic things should not be called out on it. even if they are only discovered years after the fact
  2. People who are upset when they find #1 should hold their tongues and not comment on #1
  3. Businesses should continue to carry the works of people who are guilty of #1
  4. Something else

Because 1/2/3 are actually suppression of free expression and free speech, and these “cancel culture” arguments, to me, literally sound like “We have pushed for freedom of speech and expression forever, but now the average person is using that freedom, not the chosen few, and we are tired of it!”

I still haven’t heard one of these “cancel culture is a cancer” opinions include what the alternative is supposed to be, except to force others not to exercise their freedom of choice.

Please do elaborate on how you are not asking others to keep their opinions and revulsion at bigotry and misogyny to themselves for the “greater good”?

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Contrapoints is also someone who is frequently problematic; she doesnt speak for the entire Trans community at large, nor even a small portion of it.

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Well - I only know that I didn’t vote for her.

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I don’t mean to speak for you or anyone who is LGBTQ+, only as a supportive advocate and ally.

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I didn’t take it any other way. I was trying to humorously reinforce you.

Though if no one laughs- is it really humorous? I may need to workshop my act more.

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Groovy; I just want to make sure we’re all on the same page. :slight_smile:

Again, my rights are your rights, and your rights are my rights.

That’s what equity and equality truly mean.

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Try Twitter, you can get heckled 24/7 and get to find out “dogpile” has nothing to do with cuddling puppies.

Seriously though, I much prefer people who stand with than speak for, whatever the issue. There’s no “membership badges” or hierarchy with marginalised people and anyone pretending otherwise can go fuck themselves.

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Real talk.

Stand with me, and I stand with you.

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If I wanted to spend time with people like that; I’d visit family.

If anyone is an honorary member- it’s Melz.

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EXACTLY this.

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I literally slapped my forehead when I read that. Whether you chose wealth, power, or platform, every name on this list has at least one, and most have all three. What they describe in the letter as “cancel culture” is, at worst, loss of some part of that privilege. Meanwhile, the people at the receiving end of their privileged platform face actual destruction. That imbalance cannot be waved away with a rhetorical wand. It’s disappointing that Chomsky, of all people, doesn’t get that, but we all have our blind spots.

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Curious as to whom you think has been “victimized” by cancel culture.

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dany-this

Priorities!

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Speaking of actual silencing and serious consequences that effect people’s lives.

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But… what about Kemp? Isn’t he being hurt by Mayor Bottoms checks notes taking the health and safety of her city seriously? /s

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I guess the people she represents don’t get to have representation or a voice.

Reminder - who threatened legal action to silence critics? JK and other signatories of “The Letter”.

I’m sorry - that’s infringement on the intellectual property of the Box Tops. Stop it.

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From Kemp’s point of view, that’s spot on. He’d rather silence the cities and have the rural parts of are state (which he assumes are all white dominated and conservative, but that’s only because of the constant suppression of the rural black working classes) dictate to us how to do things, because he sees it as the “proper” order of the world. He can fuck right off.

Yep!

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Prior restraint - of an elected representative of the people no less? That AG must be a Barr clone - or he attended Trump Law School before it was closed down.

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Uh… So what? People can’t help making heros of celebrities. If anything we need to be reminded of their ills so that we curtail that impulse enough to ask ourselves who we want to celebrate and why. Every time some one fails to make that cut it creates space for some one new. So bring on the criticism of celebrities. Let them all walk through the fire of fame, take responsibility for themselves, and see how they come out of it. They could always shut up, disappear from public life, and be largely uncriticized or even change and become something better. Whatever they do it’s really not our job to keep some one popular just because they were already popular when they do shitty or horrible things. Or even if they just don’t for the times anymore.

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