This here is a rubbish bin for complaints that were off-topic somewhere else. You can thank @Nightflyer that they weren’t just deleted.
If you’re hoping to actually change or clarify anything, you might want to try posting in the General Moderation Topic. We’ll make popcorn.
and you’re sure that comment wasn’t a reply to a previous comment that might have contained statements outside of the guidelines? as i keep mentioning, that will also result in the removal of a comment.
otherwise, you’re basically saying that orenwolf or jlw or someone similarly placed wiped out a non-offensive post for no reason, something that seems incredibly unlikely.
Don’t be silly; we keep a popper going at all times, just in case.
Thanks for the clarification. I’ll check there.
Only a handful of my posts have been flagged and deleted. I have no idea how many have been flagged and not deleted, I only know the single one cited here, which I could correct in time. In the time I have been a member, I have tried to follow community guidelines and have been reasonably successful.
This thread is not about me. It is about moderation and about several members who feel, for whatever reasons, that this BBS is an echo chamber.
It’s good to hear that you’ve almost never been moderated and that you’re not stating that the moderation you have received was outside of the terms of service.
As most of the posters here are younger than myself I hope my quite different perspective and experience has some value. One of the things I’ve learned is that not having a popular opinion or being part of the majority isn’t necessarily a burden. It gives one character. But one does have to accept that their opinion isn’t the majority. Such is life.
Wait: you get notification and have the chance to change your post before it’s deleted?
I have no idea how many posts I’ve lost over the years, because I don’t get notifications. They just disappear, and I only notice if I’m trying to find a specific one to remember what I said.
You must be one of those elite posters you’ve been talking about who gets special treatment.
I’m not sure, but I think you only get a chance to edit if your post is the one that got Flagged. If you lose a post by collateral damage (in a direct response to a Flagged/deleted post or off-topic pruning) it just vanishes. I’ve had posts disappear in cleanups and I’ve never been notified either.
Yup.
That’s correct; if we respond to a post that ends up getting modded, the reply itself usually becomes ‘collateral damage’ when the offending comment gets eaten, and no notification is given.
Some of my best snark has gone “poof!” that way.
And yet:
Nope, not a bit.
Also established track records of posting in bad faith tend to supersede any ‘assumption of good faith.’
That phrase generally means that we’re not supposed to just assume that any newcomer is automatically a troll.
However, if a member has been here weeks or months or even years, he or she is going to develop predictable patterns of behavior, and that’s going to be noticed by the rest of the active community.
This is a very meta microcosm of what I was asserting. In this thread, you’ve implied bias on the part of the moderation team, you have accused others of flagging you for a misunderstanding. Your response to @KathyPartdeux seemed, to me, to be both passive-aggressive and borderline Sea Lion behavior.
Yet here you are, asking that the guidelines be applied to others while you dance on the line of what is acceptable discourse and what is not.
My advice, which you can choose to take or not, is to take more care about how you communicate with others here. My take on your posting history is that you have a strong tendency to post misogynistic content and respond patronizingly to women on the board. I don’t think it’s intentional - but that doesn’t matter. Whether you mean it or not, it’s against the guidelines. It will get flagged, and it will get moderated.
Rather than ask the whole community to adapt to your communications, it would make more sense if you adapt your communications to what the community is willing to accept.
what is your meaning here? with the words “incredibly unlikely” italicized coupled with the statement that “i do not think it means what you think it means.”
if you refer to the two italicized words, please tell me what those two words should mean. i think those words refer to a an event with a probability of 0.001% or less.
if you refer to something else, please tell me what that is so i may be enlightened.
And then she slowly rose from a creaky oak rocking chair, dusted off her shaw, and hobbles back to the digital shed to gather more wool++ to spin into fresh comments to share with the world.
Don’t get me started on my lumbago - and all those whippersnappers bending my grass blades.
then i stand by my statement because having a comment deleted for deliberately irritating the publisher of the site is not the same thing as having it deleted for no reason at all.
This. Disagreement with the reasons a person has for taking a course of action dies not negate the existence of those reasons.
As my dad was fond of saying, “My house, my rules.” Or to put it in BB speak:
- We have the right to delete an account or content at any time for any reason. Remember to export your data right after making dodgy comments.
- Enforcement may be lax or draconian as befits the whims of the Entity. The rude will be eaten first.
Wait, are you referring to your post on May 28th where you, again, tried to derail yet another post about a thing by having a meta-conversation about amazon affiliate links, despite that fact being in the footer of every Boing Boing post, in our privacy policy, despite having explained this over and over ad nauseam?
That wasn’t on a whim. That was offtopic, annoying, and a not-so-subtle way to take a jab at one of the revenue sources that pays for the very place you are posting on.
I have written multiple screeds now on not only that topic, but the topic of advertising on both the BBS and on Boing Boing. We would love to live in a world where curated, interesting advertising paid the bills and we could annoy people less to keep the lights on, but as with most off-the-cuff remarks on this subject, the amount of effort our publisher puts into to keeping all of this from sucking more is grossly underestimated. No one here wants shitty content. No one here shills for a company posting crap. Authors post about stuff they find interesting or cool or valuable, full stop.
And frankly, we aren’t going to keep talking about it, or keep letting posts get derailed talking about it.
The authority of the Authors here stems from it being their place. If you don’t want to support Boing Boing then don’t post here. There are 20k other members who will happily take your place and who want independent publishing on the web to be a thing.
Or, you know - post those comments in one of the umpteen meta topics that have been opened on the topic of affiliates and ads, don’t just presume you are entitled to derail a conversation because you feel like it’s your duty-bound honour to “stick it to the man” today.
Our decisions aren’t petty. I’ve worked hard to be transparent about moderation decisions and the reasoning behind what we do here, and the implication that anyone here is just running around removing content on a whim is specious and inflammatory.
