Guillotine watch: LAX's new one-percenter luxury terminal -- UPDATED with veiled legal threats!, AND MORE LEGAL THREATS!

With the threat model we now have

Of course … that “threat model” is largely imaginary, created and sustained it seems merely to fuck with people. It is certainly overblown.

not exactly 1%er level transport

Well … there’s approx. .25M GA planes in the US for a popn of 320M, or about one per 1280 people. In other words, 0.078% of the popn have a GA plane … so … in this context you are literally part of the 0.1%.

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Yes, but you see he’s not one of those “elitist” creative or intellectual wealthy “hypocrites” who dare to both use their GA planes and speak out publically about social and environmental issues. He’s what you might call a “Real American 0.1%er.”

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To REALLY rub it in, and cement the brutal symmetry of it all, they should have a video feed of the 1%er terminal showing in the proletariat terminal. Permanent caption: THIS YOU CANNOT HAVE.

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WOW, discount Icelandic carrier. They also charge $40 for carryons, $50 for a checked bag. It’s the wild west out there.

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outrage, because it normalizes the sub-human treatment of passengers who can’t afford, or don’t want to pay for the special handling.

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My OED disagrees with you, it says that “polloi” comes from polus (πολύς, alt. form of πολλοί), not polis, and πολύς means “the many” (it is the origin of the English “poly-”).

Oh well, OED versus a lecturer at Reading U. I have deleted my post.

Well, on any given issue a current professor might be more correct than the past ones who populated the entries in the OED or the EB, but in this case the OED entry does seem more plausible. I thought to look for the appearance in (an English translation of) Thucydides, with the idea that that occurrence would give insight, but I can’t find my copy and the one I looked at online apparently (and perhaps bizarrely) translated οι πολλοί as something other than “hoi polloi”, at least I couldn’t find the latter phrase in a text search.

Thucydides seems to use the term for the citizens, as I suggested, since he also calls them plethos, and uses both terms in respect of people with enough status in the community to take part in politics.
“The many” is a contemptuous term for ordinary citizens. Slaves and metics didn’t count in Athens, nor did helots in Sparta, because nobody was asking their opinion. Thucydides was specifically making the argument, popular with people like Ayn Rand and probably Boris Johnson, that ordinary people are not well informed and so their views shouldn’t count.

The word polys (many) and the word polis (a city) do seem to have a relationship, though. A city was originally simply a place where many people were gathered, and in the classical era it would seem (I have been doing some research) that the “polis” of Athens or Sparta referred to the whole body of citizens.

So it looks like there is no conflict between the OED and my informant - who is unfortunately dead now so I can’t check with her. Thucydides’s idea of “the masses” most likely coincides with the members of the polis, because he was a grade A aristocratic prick who despised ordinary people; and he wasn’t thinking of slaves, helots or metics because they were beneath his notice.

I’d bet that there are at least fifteen people reading BB right now who have cars that cost more than a Cessna 170.

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I wonder how many of California’s Congressional representatives will be using this terminal.

The Marie Antoinette Memorial Terminal.

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[quote]best of all, you can watch a live video-feed of normal humans in the public terminal, captioned “Here is a glimpse of what you’re missing over at the main terminal right now,” and featuring “travellers hauling bags through packed terminals, queuing in long lines, looking harassed and being swallowed into pushing, shoving paparazzi scrums – routine hazards for the 80 million people who pass through LAX each year.”[/quote]This sounds like a setup for a YA dystopian novel, in which a curious young’un is heard to exclaim, “Wait a minute, this isn’t a video feed! This is a tape on a loop! What’s really going on over there?” The people in blazers try to keep her from leaving, but she’s plucky and determined, etc.

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Ah, I often look at them because they have such great deals. Then I add up all the baggage fees etc, and realize I’d be better off going with another airline, and I don’t want to deal with it.

I think ‘sub-human’ is overstating things a bit. It’s not like they’re putting you in steerage and making you shovel coal. Exactly what is it about flying coach that’s sub-human?

Not sure who’s fawning or sycophantic. It appears they go through TSA and immigration just like everyone else, just in a private terminal with shorter lines. The service in the terminal (snacks, private rooms, etc) is something they’re paying for, so I don’t really see that as fawning. But go ahead and be outraged if you want.

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of a huge support network built by taxes
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Not that much. We fly VFR, short field to short field. Once you got past the original FAA certification of the plane when it was introduced back in the late '40s, it’s all pretty much our nickel. Fuel, maintenance, annual inspections and periodic overhauls, medical exams, are all ours, dollar one.

The feds do provide us with some pretty good weather forecasting, and I’ll thank the taxpayers for that, but if our plane never flew an hour this year, that cost would still be there for the airlines and military.

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interact with the TSA much?

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All the time. I fly enough to get 1k status for 7 of the last 10 years, and platinum in the off years. And I always opt out of the scanners when I don’t get priority screening. The TSA has always been courteous and professional, as I’m sure they are for most of the 1.73 million passengers who fly every day. Yes, there are horror stories of some of them being assholes, but I’m guessing that’s not the majority.

Pinzini are delicious, though I associate them with Ferrara, not Trieste.

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