Gun-porn turns to horny-porn in the search for new digs


#1

Originally published at: https://boingboing.net/2018/03/22/gun-porn-turns-to-horny-porn-i.html


#2

Welp, I guess that since so many ammosexuals can’t tell the difference between a penis and a pistol, this is a good move for the gun producers.


#3

As a guy who went with his dad to gun shows as a kid, where I saw lots of videos for sale of scantily clad (or nude) women firing assault weapons, I could appreciate the buxom ladies. But never understood the guns part.

It’s downright icky now. Still pretty incomprehensible.

Yeah, yeah. #NotAllGunOwners


#4

According to my brother-in-law, the gun fan of the family, most gun-video makers are moving to full30.com, not PornHub.


#5

Doubt pornhub wants them around either.
I get why you’d use the snarky tone boing boing but are you really porn shaming…


#6

Yeah, most people seem to be going to full30.

There are some youtube creators that will probably get pushed off of youtube, in a way that I think is probably not completely fair/good/whatever you want to call it. One that comes to mind is the channel “Forgotten Weapsons,” which is a dude that mostly goes around to auctions, museums, private collections, etc, to find guns from the past that are relatively hard to find. He explains their development, history, production, and use. He usually disassembles them as much as is feasible - most of them are antiques and some of them won’t come apart easily. It’s a very interesting channel.

It’s a little hard to see right now exactly what content will be excluded, but the channel creator seems to think he’ll probably run afoul of the rules as he understands them.

Youtube once also removed some of his videos because the thumbnails included a nazi flag - the thumbnails tend to be a picture of the gun along with the flag of it’s originating country at the time of it’s production. Youtube doesn’t allow nazi imagery, so they removed them.

It’s fair enough for them to do this, it’s their site, but I sort of doubt that’s what the creator of the rule had in mind at the time.


#7

It’s honestly unfortunate because it’s exactly the same kind of zero-strikes blanket rule that gets kids in school suspended for a transparent yellow squirt-gun (because ‘a gun is a gun’). Channels that have been pretty low-key firearms history/safety are being lumped in with dudes blowing stuff up with AR-15s and screaming about blockading your house for when the feds take yer gurrrns, and it’s pushing the level-headed channels into being less level-headed.


#8

Although I believe the 2nd amendment is limited and, in some cases, definitely needs to be limited more than it is this is a 1st amendment issue. Guns are legal and it should be legal to talk about them. This idea where you can’t talk about doing something illegal has the potential to go WAY too far.

Reddit just banned the subreddit /GunDeals, where users post and discuss good deals on firearms (and related stuff) in the same wave as this Google/Youtube thing. Talking about where you can buy a bolt action hunting rifle for cheap should not be prohibited speech…


#9

It’s still legal to talk about guns. You just might not be able to do it on Youtube.


#10

There’s also a guy who runs his own channel, and frequently shows up on the The Great War channel to show (and occasionally fire) WWI era weaponry. Considering it’s not tutorials on how to modify or built weapons, I don’t know if he’d run afoul of the rules as they’re described here, but… well Youtube has never been great about sensible enforcement of their own rules. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.


#11

The trouble is there are still people who make this claim about the internet as a whole…

And att some point, when the public comes to depend on you enough, you are a public institution, whether you like it or not. (And if you don’t believe that, look at the move to start regulating Facebook.)


#12

Your argument only works for the government, re: PUBLIC expression. YouTube and Reddit are private entities, that simple, and are not beholden to the 1st Amendment in any way; they can prohibit w/e speech they care to, for good or ill.

@WhyBother Note that Facebook IS NOT being told what speech they may or may not allow. The current proposed regulations are about sharing of user data.


#13

YouTube’s servers are private property, If I ask a guest to stop talking about something and does so anyway, they will not be invited back.


#14

I bet YouTube continues to host videos of violent video games and movies glorifying killing people with guns. Funny how some people cheer when people they don’t like are censored. Hypocrites. I know it’s not a public institution so rights are not being violated but rights aren’t violated when some backwards ass homophobic baker refuses to bake a gay wedding cake either. YouTube can limit it’s content all it wants but Seriously - think about what you are cheering for (censorship of dissenting views / censorship of legal activities) while you dismiss and defame all people who don’t share your views as heathens and hicks and porn shame at the same time. It’s this elitist attitude that motivates the people you shit on and gets clowns like Trump elected. SMH


#15

That dude is Ian McCollum, mentioned in OP. I also like the videos he makes, at least when taken in moderation.


#16

So, when I was 13 and only knew about three pornography websites, one of them was called goregasm and it hosted a horrifying mix of sex and violence. Even though I was able to for the most part avoid the gore, I think that association of was in no way good for my still imprinting sexuality.
If this starts to trend, you are going to get a whole lot of today’s kids to one day be perverts who are aroused by the idea of guns. YouTube is creating a future sexual identity that I would rather not exist; please make them stop.


#17

Yup, it is true that virtually all of our major public forums are owned by corporations, and they have every legal right to ban all mention of whatever topics they choose.

I do find this troubling.


#18

I’m really hoping more YouTube alternatives like full30.com start to show up. YouTube/Alphabet/Google continue to abuse their content creators and I’d really love to just be able to stop visiting the site all together.


#19

Pretty sure that is already the case with the US’s almighty need to worship the gun as we do.


#20

You lost me here.