This kind of gun safe is pretty much entirely about keeping guns out of the hands of children rather than an anti-theft safe. And the lock picking lawyer is pointing out that it’s not even good enough to do that. His demonstration was entirely about non-destructive opening of the unit. But it’s so flimsy that it could also be pried open with a screwdriver or other easily available lever.
So, in this case, “won’t somebody please think of the children” is exactly on point.
I suspect that you could pop the lid by banging the left side of the safe against a doorframe or something hard and immovable. The latch would probably retract from the shock and the lid would spring open.
I expect that disposable flimsiness is why they felt comfortable not putting a manual backup lock on it. They know that even if someone gets locked out by failed electronics it’s not difficult to open.
I agree with your point, and think these videos also serve as a consumer value warning. Who wants to buy something absolutely garbage?
Personally I’ll take a good solid lock box with a pad lock over a fancy gizmo you can poke and prod to break into. Yes, locks can be picked and cut, but a lock box at that point is to keep young kids from hurting themselves and others. If you have an older kid capable of breaking in, and you have reason think they might, then you need to up your security and get some counseling.
And how many companies make equally shoddy “safety” devices designed marketed to save gun owners and their loved ones from themselves? I guess it’s not only gun manufacturers that have a vested interest in getting as many guns into circulation as possible. It’s disgusting.
With all due respect, I believe you’re thinking way too much about this. Things that are sold to provide “security” are on the market so the company doing the selling can make a buck. That’s all there is. As for the part where the buyer feels better because he/she came under the impression they are more secure? Well…that’s on the buyer.
Short story: if someone wants in bad enough, they’re getting in.
Briefly I hoped this box could ONLY be opened with an orange juice bottle, which would be a brilliant way to secure it.
“What are you doing, man?”
“What you told me to bring a juice bottle, so I got these two.”
“No man, that’s Sunny D and some purple stuff. I told you to bring an orange juice bottle!”
Tell that to these kid’s parents…
By a lip I meant that partially overlapped the face of the (un)safe rather than a slight projection over the jamb.
When I was a kid, I used to crack locks for fun. Well, that and to get at my older brother’s porn stash.
A cheap lock is no barrier to a sufficiently bored kid.
This is why if you care about a safe, but a UL listed one. TL-15 is a reasonable starting point.
So basically, the lock wasn’t supposed to work anyway.
Besides, anyone who thinks the two things are different has obviously never met me when I was a kid. If I was bored enough, and the toy was fun enough, I could easily become a determined attacker. Not even joking.
Well, yes. But instead of blaming lumps of metal, why not blame the asshole who decided that having their car hit by a snowball warrented a lethal response instead of stopping their car and yelling “DAMMN YOU KIDS! YOU TRYING TO CAUSE A CAR WRECK!!” which is still a perfectly valid response.
I’m refusing to participate further in this, as I don’t have time to refuel the flamethrower for burning down the strawman arguments.
And if the job is killing, they’re the right tool. That job just doesn’t come up as often as many seem to think.
Unlike the children no one thought of.
The “lumps of metal” make this sort of thing possible. yes, the asshole is to blame, but if that asshole did not have access to a gun, he would have been LESS likely to, you know, SHOOT CHILDREN.
Maybe we should blame the fetishizations of guns and the gun manufactors and mass media that push a pro-gun agenda.
Mostly black and working class, dead with no one in jail for the crime.
Security doesn’t give you safety. Security gives you time. If it takes 35 minutes to breach your door then you have 35 minutes to deal with the threat. If the locked door is opened in 3 seconds with a rubberband, then you have lost more than 34 minutes of time to deal with the threat. The easiest way to prevent a kid from playing with a weapon isn’t a safe; it’s education.
You say that like it is mutually exclusive with a good safe. And, while I support education, it is way easier to lock a gun up in a real safe than to completely educate kids out of wanting to play with guns. Chance of kids breaking into a legit, UL rated security safe is rather small. Chance of breaking into the safe in the OP is rather high, IMO. Not every kid, mind you, but enough kids.
If there’s a spare key anywhere in the house, they’ll find it. If they can’ find it they’ll Youtube “lockpicking lawyer” and open it. Not mutually exclusive, but education, including demonstration of the lethality/damage, makes it less of a grail to go hunting after and more of a self defense tool to seek when some real threat breaches the household.
Then why did you bring the strawmen? 
