Gunman kills 50 in Florida gay nightclub

Thank you.

It can’t be said often enough: the vast majority of the 6 billion people on this planet wouldn’t think twice about jumping into a freezing river to save a drowning child. Or share what may already be a pittance of resources to help someone even worse off than them. Or, say, form a queue to give their own blood to those who need it.

We help one another. It’s what we do. Write off the selfish few as exceptions because that’s exactly what they are.

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And of course, some US evangelicals have actively funded and support this anti-gay hysteria. Just because they don’t do it here, doesn’t mean why wouldn’t if they could get away with it.

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What’s sad is we KNOW the root cause here and know the profile of the people most likely to commit these acts. They’re VERY heavily skewed towards authoritarian followers and people with severe impulse control issues.

If believing it’s okay to kill somebody over a cause was treated like a terrifying mental illness like it should be then we’d at least be able to do something other than let them run the country and influence firearm legislation and our foreign entanglements. (Yes, I’m saying a lot of our leaders are less mentally healthy than most grade schoolers…I think that’s well supported statistically)

Instead they’re saying that choosing to love differently is mentally ill. The wanktards.

It’s freaking Bizzaro-land here.

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2016-2001 = 15 years.

Age minimum to vote in the US is 18.

The memories may not be “crisp and clear”, but anyone eligible to vote in the upcoming election would have had to have been at least 3 years old when 9/11 happened.

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that’s nice to hear. There was a slate article that said mentioned that the blood ban is still a factor.

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I won’t disagree with you on that point. I absolutely agree that we need to always remain vigilant about such things. Never tell yourself “I could never happen here”. That sort of thinking is a normal way of coping with the uncertainties of the world, but it can happen here, or anywhere else. and what “it” is can be something unexpected.

ive never heard it put quite that way before.

it makes a lot of sense. and i guess, linking this to what @Mister44 says about inner city blacks being those most subject to day to day gun violence, really highlights #blacklivesmatter.

our country has significant issues prioritizing black lives, and the lives of other minorities ( re: gay marriage ).

we rank the inconvenience of legal ( often white male conservative christian ) gun owning folks over the lives of those being killed.

we rank the inconvenience of a straight business owner to decorate the wedding cake of a gay couple over that couple’s attempt to have a life long commitment to one another.

the inconvenience of acknowledging the meer existence of transgender people over the basic need of everyone to have access to bathrooms.

this country sure does have a long way to go.

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Don’t want to diminish this tragedy, but the worst mass killing in American history was Wounded Knee.

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Which raises the question- how in HELL do you bring an assault rifle and several pistols into a bar, in what I presume was hot weather, and not get stopped?

Gosh. You mean we can’t legislate away access to a technology?

#!!!

Although, really, the point is laws can never eliminate things, but they can significantly raise the barriers to entry.

Although since this guy was working in the security industry, there probably wouldn’t have been too many barriers anyway.

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[Fifty minutes earlier…]

Help me out here.

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I understand the assault began on the street in a shootout with the single police officer posted outside. Then he went inside

It’s like banning a book, and any printer that can reproduce that book. It’s not technically feasible.

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Same way mass shooters get their guns into places like schools that have armed security guards, I’d imagine. The first person who tries to stop you becomes the first one to get shot at.

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Way to make me feel old. You’re now that guy.

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R…right, that was my point. Doesn’t sound like we’re disagreeing here, then.

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Along those lines, any recommendations from the group for a well-run LGTBQ non-profit to whom one can make a donation in honor of the victims?

Some of us feeling helpless may at least be in the fortunate position of being monetarily helpful.

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