Admit it, you work for the DMV.
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Well, spit it out man!
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My county opened up at 8 AM ready to issue marriage licenses.
This is Georgia. Iâm kind of proud of those guys.
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Damn. That honestly made me tear up a little.
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Gay Marriage will be raining down in force on all identified terrorist enclaves within the week.
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Itâs actually an apt description. They are ignorant of the fact that no matter how hard I and many others blaspheme, the only harm that befalls us for doing so caused by and directly attributable to humans. For instance, allah and mohammed didnât show up to kill the Charlie Hebdo writers and cartoonists, that was other people. I blasphemed the holy spirit, (whatever that means? My interpretation is stating to a crowd of fundies that there is no god, and all miracles are imminently explainable with science), yet I still live.
Those people are fearful that god wonât love them if they choose to be reasonable and afford gay people the same rights as straight people. Thatâs pretty sickening if you ask me.
Theyâre more afraid that an entity they canât give any evidence of existence for will hurt them than they are of losing their humanity from hurting other people we know without a doubt exist. Thatâs fucked up. They may be nice enough, but theyâre being cruel and evil whether they know it or not.
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I once read that evil was the rounding error between who we are and who we like to think we are.
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You just reminded me of something I witnessed today. We watched all the major news networks talking about this absolutely historic civil rights ruling. My GF wondered what FOX âNewsâ had to say about it.
I snidely predicted theyâd be talking about terrorism or anything else aside from the ruling today. She flipped over to FOX News and sure enough⌠terror coverage. Weâd flipped back to CNN, gay marriage ruling. Flipped to all the other news channels⌠gay marriage ruling. Flipped back to FOX? Terror.
It went on like that throughout the day.
Iâm getting the feeling that FOX News producers are sitting in board rooms crafting their response to this situation. The RNC or, er⌠FOX News has the 2016 election around the corner. Do they alienate their bigoted base? Do they pander to the rest of the nation that will further despise them by voicing bigoted outrage over the ruling? Or, do they tap-dance around it and show terrorism segments until 2016?
WTF do they do?
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Life is good.
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As far as Iâm concerned, itâs pretty evil to deny others their rights without a very damn good reason based in facts, logic and evidence. Offloading oneâs moral and ethical reasoning to a fictional character, then insisting that this entityâs commands must be obeyed is evil.
They have no basis to restrict gay peopleâs rights. They only offer bullshit as an argument and expect it to be taken seriously. If we arenât going to treat them as delusional, or really fucking stupid, then then the only option we have left is that theyâre intentionally trying to cause people grief knowing that thereâs no reason to do so. Thatâs malevolent at the very least.
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I was originally going to accuse you of concern trolling, but in the end I think you are on to something. It actually will have a stabilising effect, with less societal stress and same sex marriage becoming boring and no longer something waved in their faces.
All too often, conservatives are so focussed on the means that they do not see how they actually work against their desired ends. We see it again and again with their prohibition policies against alcohol, drugs, sex, and so on. Their mental calcification is sad, really.
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And what about the churches and religions who are supportive of same sex marriage? Iâm sure they also see it as a âplease manâ vs. âplease Godâ equation and choose the God side of it.
Why do conservative Christians think it is OK to legally forbid some of the religious ceremonies of other Christians?
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There is no god. Or at least, if there is a god, it doesnât interact with the real world where people actually live. If such a god existed, were omnicient, omnibenevolent, and omnipotent, then there wouldnât be disagreement about such interpretations, because itâd be able to speak in such a way to make clear its intention. As it stands, the bible alone contradicts itself. That there are many factions of christianity proves that there is no god that cares about what humans think, feel and do.
Either there is no god, or there is no god who cares about humanity, or there is no god who competent and intelligent enough to make clear itâs own meaning.
I donât believe thereâs a god. But even if the existence of a god were proven, I wouldnât worship it. Itâs been either fucking up the world, or just not paying attention for so long that itâs not worth even considering.
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Iâm not a believer either, I just get annoyed when conservative Christians effectively say that their form of worship is the only valid one.
I know liberal Anglicans and Quakers who support same sex marriage in their churches and fought for it to become legal the UK (and the Anglicans still have to fight).
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Such people have shown themselves to be more moral than their holy books. Whatâs the point of religion when logic and reason and empathy and plain old human decency to other humans completely supplant the conclusions of revelation?
Itâs demonstrable that people can easily be good without god using their own faculties. Why should we be respectful of bigoted holy texts and religions when itâs people who actually exist making a change for the better?
ETA: I respect people by default, mostly (there are certain people who I wouldnât cry over if they got skinned alive then burnt to death *cough Stanislaw Burzynski cough*). But ideas must prove their worth before Iâm going to respect them. Everyone has their humanity. But humans think up terrible ideas all the time.
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The âmental calcificationâ reminds me of the sociologist David Blankenhorn who was an âexpert witnessâ for the defense in Californiaâs Prop.8 trial several years ago. He admitted that it was his opinion that same-sex marriage would provide familial stability and could even have such benefits as a drop in STDs. He admitted it would be better for society, but he was still opposed to it because something something sanctity of marriage something.
He destroyed the very defense he was supposed to be part of.
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Thanks for bringing this up!!
