How to: avenge yourself on the Republicans who voted to nuke your healthcare

Don’t tell anyone in Europe they’re all “very similar” :grin:

That said, this is very true. In fact, I often go to a gas-station in a different country while on my daily commute, which is only about a five minute detour. I could also get my gas in yet another different country than my own, but that would be a 20 minute detour (I go shopping there from time to time though).

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So what your saying is continuing to pay the industry that lobbied for this in the off chance they will cover you when you need it, while we wait for maybe the opposition to fix the same industry?

How about no, we shut it down now and demand single payer.

This is true for school reform, net neutrality, etc. We have all the real power, weasling bagmen into government isn’t power, it’s substurfuge. We don’t have to accept or normalize any of it.

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I didn’t mean to be insulting! Just that European countries are a lot like each other in the same way any geographically smallish area shares a lot of characteristics. That said, they are way different from each other than similarly sized areas in the US.

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I get it… It’s just that if you tell Europeans they’re all basically the same, they will give you an hour long lecture about the intricate differences between them and their neighboring countries.

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I would probably find that lecture really interesting :stuck_out_tongue:

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Don’t get mad, get even. Mid-term elections are important as hell.

Right now you all should be double checking your voter registration to make sure its in order. When 2018 rolls around, take a little time to get the word out about registration.

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logic that…holds up? lol
that’s asking a lot from these folks

As much as I despise Steve Bannon, I wonder if this is what he’s pushing for - completely crashing all the government systems so a more egalitarian country rises from the ruins. I still have zero trust in the man, but think he may be the real revolutionary in the White House.

I honestly think the Insurance lobby is too deeply embedded to remove that easily.

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They had to do that, because every time some dude goes on a shooting rampage, and his mental health gets blamed for it, these guys go on the television and say that we really really need to do more for the mentally ill. What they don’t say is what they mean by that is a) make it easier for them to get guns and b) make it harder for them to get meds. What could go wrong?

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Crashing all the government systems, yes, absolutely - he’s openly admitted repeatedly that his goal is to choose cabinet members who would destroy the offices they’re hired for and to take down government systems to put as much back on the states as possible.

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Healthcare starts hemoraging customers they will light a fire under lawmakers asses. Same for pharmacutical.

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I think your design could be made more efficient if instead of the blade have a thick end and a short end, both ends where thick and tapered to the center. Otherwise you might not have enough blade at the short end for a clean cut. And you could increase capacity, too.

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I think it’s pretty clear he wants a less egalitarian system.

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I’m skeptical.

It may sound good to a healthy single person. But there are a lot of sick or people with sick family who cannot afford to go without daily medicine, who cannot pay out of pocket for ongoing hospital care, medications, oxygen and so on. Do you really think they are going to take a risk like that?

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short-term is the issue here, because I’m now using my health insurance a lot more than when I was younger, and I don’t feel bad about it at all because I’ve been paying into the system the whole time, even friggin COBRA (they named that one right) a couple times.

The issue most people have with single payer is that it’s the government presiding over their physical well being, and who can trust the government, amirite?

So instead they resort to magical thinking: Either choose a profit driven insurance company to do better while simultaneously extracting profits OR the third choice - “I don’t need health insurance” – ahh… to be young and invulnerable.

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Is thier convienice worth more than uncovered individuals. It’s a choice everyone has to make, just 25% participating would likely be effective.

You think that not being able or willing to accrue thousands in debt to save a loved one is convienence?

Where are you getting this number?

FWIW want the same thing that you do, I just think it’s going to take more steps and a longer game.

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…and yet Nancy Pelosi just made a point of stating Single Payer is still “off the table”.

Sigh. When we get around to having primaries for our conserva-dems please let me know. Just retaking the House ain’t enough (though I’ll vote as always just in case.)

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