At this point, the word “conservative” is on par with “abracadabra”, meaning that it’s nothing more than a faux magic spell without any actual meaning.
If it had meaning, they would conserve something, anything! Not fucking shit up was the meaning of conserve, wasn’t it? I mean, before this dumb hallucination started, where the goal of the reactionaries was to destroy as much as possible.
only after they finished using it
I don’t care if I ever see anyone else ever again. Can I just stop paying for all this crap I’m never going to use???
Like taking one bite out of every banana in the bunch, because that first bite is always the nicest? Yep, governance with the long term thinking ability of a toddler on meth.
Like cutting the first piece of cake out of the middle
Do we know that they are indeed functioning?
You decide.
I seriously don’t know how these people function in life with his kind of outlook on life. Is that a middle finger she’s flipping?.. Not now perhaps but later definitely.
How many times have we read or heard of some seriously dysfunctional family that others only “knew” as being “…so nice, so happy… I can’t believe that they were going through THAT!”
What ‘arranged’ family picture actually tells you what’s really happening?
Looking at this staged photo I am asking myself why I have Social Security payments taken out of my pay check for his family? There are plenty of others who could use it. Including me if and when the time comes.
You’ve raised a point. Based on the subject buffoon’s “logic”, the only fair economic system would be one purely based on bartering. “Hey! If you build me a raised barbecue patio, I’ll handle your dental work. Call my secretary first, though. I’ll have to barter for the filling material… and for the power for the drill.”
Once again, as with so many arguments relating to healthcare…
This is literally the concept of insurance that he’s complaining about. It’s only been known for a couple of millennia.
The sheer relentlessness of the “Well, if we completely eliminated the risk-pooling that is the whole point of insurance in the first place; it would be cheaper for the low cost cases” has really made it hard to decide between mendacity and
horrific cluelessness.
Yes, sure, if you slice and dice the risk pool hard enough, it’s trivial to extract major savings for certain groups; however, the more you dice the risk pool, the closer you get to the situation where ‘insurance’ is just the glorious prospect of paying your expected costs; plus the insurers’ overhead and profit, in premiums in exchange for the chance to fight brutal wars of bureaucratic attrition to get anything paid out.
If insurance isn’t going to pool risk; anyone who can afford it would be way better off just self-insuring(even if you need to borrow money, lenders have lower overhead than insurers, and you don’t have to fight them every inch of the way over what you can or can’t spend the loan on); and people who can’t afford it are basically choosing between paying ruinously high premiums and going bankrupt if they get sick or paying no premiums and going bankrupt if they get sick, so they are also better off self-insured.
Insurance is sort of a perverse business, even if you have no moral qualms about the implications of the distribution of medical coverage: the immediate incentive is always to improve your risk model and your estimate of each policyholder’s expected costs; but the closer you get to perfect modeling the less worthwhile your product is; because insurance perfectly calibrated to your expected risk is basically paying a hefty markup to have your out-of-pocket costs repackaged into monthly fees.
Similarly the incentive to deny every claim you can(but never mind that; look at the scary moral hazard over there!) has obvious immediate benefits; but kind of erodes the desirability of paying for coverage that you know will be withdrawn on some arcane technicality if you ever actually really need it.
Not even the robots manufactured to take our jobs; in that particular case.
Some british pinko is said to have remarked that “And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families.”
Here in 'Murica; we know that this ‘families’ thing is a socialist lie.
(and some of us aren’t so sure about this ‘individual women’ concept, either.)
When I talk about being radically progressive-conservative, this is exactly what I mean about the “conservative” side of that equation, just so everyone is clear. That is why I refuse to call people like these theocratic reactionaries Conservatives.
Being conservative isn’t about being opposed to progress or everything progressives say. Being conservative simply means being the one to say: “and how do you intend to do this without destroying or bankrupting everything we have worked to gain? When X goes wrong, what is the plan for dealing with it?” Conservative doesn’t mean simply “on the right-hand side of things” sometimes it means standing in the middle between “charge in with no regard for the consequences” and “tear apart everything” like we’re dealing with now.
Sorry for the rant, but growing up, I was always the horribly conservative one, and while a few of my views have evolved (hence the radically progressive for the social side, now) I am still not as far-left (IMO) as I now get cast. It’s still disorienting to be informed that I must not believe in fiscal responsibility because I will pay more now for bigger savings down the line, instead of a quick, dirty, unsustainable payout. Or that because I believe in regulatory cleanup and clarification over slash-and-burn, that I believe in red tape and punishing business.
This is why I am honestly scared for the future.
They all look like something out of a Stepford nightmare.
Exactly! I mean, technically I am a conservative: I reduce, reuse, recycle, do my best to protect public and natural spaces, advocate for public health and good governance, grow food, can/dry/preserve it, etc.
All of these things were once considered sensible and thrifty. Now they are considered radically lefty.
With the exception of the youngest, they all seem to be in pain…
Based on the way your federal, state and local elections are going - FTFY 
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