For fuck’s sake - it’s getting close to cocktail hour on the west coast. Is the internet done being in a tizzy over GOT?
Over a TV show where they are shocked, SHOCKED, that someone known for lopping off dicks and skinning people alive acted brutal and raped his new bride?
In this very episode, one of the queens shoved a guy into the maw of a dragon to be burned and eaten.
Through the years, people have been stabbed, beheaded, tortured, fucked and poisoned (a boy, even) on screen. Jesus Christ. A dwarf almost lost his cock to the guy with that stupid fucking hat from Oz!
Lives, you need to get them.
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It isn’t polite to discuss the hypocrisy of the religious. Or maybe it’s just boring because it’s so trite a meme. Hypocrisy in religion…par for course.
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It’s not just the GoT women. The men don’t talk much about anything not related to politics, war, and revenge, either, and they’d have to perform impressive contortions to avoid mentioning other men in those topics. It’s what the story is about. Sure, the show could have gone in some different directions… and Spielberg could have written a bunch of women into Saving Private Ryan who talk about things other than soldiers and the war.
It just seems an odd choice of stories to wave this banner against, when there are so many others more flagrantly deficient.
That’s why I put fail in scare quotes. It “fails” at something people use it for that it wasn’t intended to be.
EDIT: Much like the structure of that sentence.
Apparently you assume rape victims aren’t people who undergo character development and have the strength to gain position.
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Much of what I had in mind depended upon her being in the Vale of Arryn, with only Baelish to contend with. That’s no longer the case.
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No, but it will be a lot more difficult to continue that line of Sansa’s character development now. She’ll either revert to being a traumatized victim, which would be credible with what she’s been through but take a long time to resolve. Or, as I fear, they’ll have her continue on that route, but thereby downplay the impact of the rape on her - just as they did with Cersei, who they showed as not holding much of a grudge against Jamie for raping her in front of their kid’s corpse because it would’ve been inconvenient plot-wise.
For Sansa, my guess is that they’ll just treat the rape as something that gives her another personal reason for vengeance against Ramsay, as if she didn’t have enough already. It’s unnecessary as a plot device or a catalyst for character development, and rape shouldn’t be handled in such a gratuitous manner.
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“usefull”
This girl needs some ambition.
No one suggested to her that Ramsay was a rapist or a sadist.
Miranda does pretty clearly, whatever her intentions are, Sansa shrugs it off as an empty threat by a rival.
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Exactly. Saying Sansa expected the rape is not the same as saying she deserved it (as bathosfear so eloquently pointed out). People are often so concerned with getting blogger points for riding their “you’re-blaming-the-victim-high-horse” that they don’t realize what a disservice they are doing to victims who are truly blamed. When they try to press “victim blaming” into service where it doesn’t belong it does much to invalidate the phrase in the minds of those who need to understand the most (which is the real disservice to victims). Doing so makes the term less important in the minds of many than it should be. Then many will in the future dismiss “victim-blaming” as rubbish because of the plethora of bad examples and bloggers who cried wolf.
One, that was epic!
Two, is there some internet meme about Donald Sutherland I don’t grasp? Because the avatar for “A Hysterical Man” is identical to the one used by a few choice posters here as well.
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It’s not just the GoT women. The men don’t talk much about anything not related to politics, war, and revenge, either, and they’d have to perform impressive contortions to avoid mentioning other men in those topics. It’s what the story is about.[/QUOTE]
Right, there’s no characterization, no humor, no worldbuilding…y’know, it’s CSPAN with tits and beheadings.
So everyone should run their cultural criticism past you first? You certainly must be important.
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He/she must be less important than a feminist. It seems some “feminists” expect the showrunners to run their cultural criticism past them first.
TIL that apparently some people think showrunners that make cultural criticism (what?) are oppressed by “feminists.” (…what?)
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Are you oppressed by the cultural critiques of GOT showrunners?
It’s from the 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Whenever a human unwittingly outs themselves to the pod people, they point and howl to alert any nearby pod people that there’s a human in their midst.
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Holy moley, I totally forgot about that…thank you!
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I didn’t know they were even offering cultural criticism. What was David Benioff’s take on the new Avengers? Did Dan Weiss find The Rumperbutts formulaic?
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It becomes less of a narrative technique when overused to the point of cliche. It indicates a lack of ideas.
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