Ireland borrows water cannons from UK after anti-immigration riot

if you watch the Techno Viking og vid you will understand- no fascists …

I guess you’re not going to be a victim of fascists, so you don’t need to worry. Some of us can’t treat shit as a joke.

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Fuck I[ll stop

Not everything is a joke, my friend. If people are asking you to stop making jokes, maybe do so.

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I would just like to say that the impact of this relatively small incident has had a profound political impact. There has been an enormous backlash across society and I predict this will blow up in the face of the tiny minority of fuckwits that make up the far right here.

There have been a number of right wing stunts here over the last few years and time and again the majority of Irish people have put them to shame.

I think when we (Irish society) have had time to digest this incident, we will come back better and more united.

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I was in the city centre today, right where the trouble started. Everything’s back to normal - lots of shoppers as one might expect for a month before Christmas, I didn’t spot any gards. Some of the shops I passed that got smashed up still had boarded up windows or damaged doors.

In some ways this is good because it’s showing that we’re not going to be defined by fear of the mob, but also it shows that there’s a drive to get back to normal and maybe sweep it under the carpet. I’ve got a fear that it’s going to literally take blood in the streets before the authorities take the far-right in this country seriously.

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Jimmy Fallon Agree GIF

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The Irish Journalist used the most appropriate language for the context. The American blogger decided to change it. It said N.I. for good reasons.

The blogpost also says the suspect “was not a foreign national”. He is is 49 year old from Algeria who became an Irish citizen through naturalisation having moved here at age 29. The racially motivated violence was disgusting but this kind of sloppy reporting doesn’t help.

Sorry, are you saying he is a foreign national? Because he is not.

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This may well just be down to ignorance of the writer backgrounds; but describing someone who has been naturalized less than 10 years as “the American blogger” while suggesting that it’s ‘sloppy reporting’ to characterize someone who has been naturalized for 20 as not a foreign national seems a little nose-adjacent.

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So, he’s Irish, yeah? :woman_shrugging: He’s a citizen, so he’s Irish. Not sure why that’s confusing.

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… it’s easy to imagine what those reasons might be (“mentioning that N.I. is currently part of the UK could make somebody upset”) but we don’t actually know what those reasons are

Unless you list them for us we’re just guessing :confused:

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Reminded me of the Russian Airplane attack ie the gossip mongering that resorts to violence.

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But they are good reasons. In fact, excellent reasons. The best reasons. Top reasons.
Top. Reasons.

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Those cannons had to come from Northern Ireland, because there’s only three on the mainland (another Johnson fuckup), and they’re mothballed because they’re illegal to use in England and Wales (specifically).

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There are loads on the mainland (the continent of Europe) but Irish and Northern Irish police cooperate all the time. There are political and practical structures for it.

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Uhh, burn

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Politician’s complacency is driven by the fact that the candidates of racist extremism all lose their deposits (i.e. fail to get enough votes to be seen as serious political forces rather than vexatious noise in elections) but that is not the same thing.

“Swaths of people can’t afford homes as a result of a housing crisis; parents struggle to find adequate childcare; GPs can’t take new patients; farmers worry about environmental policies.” one of these things, “worrying” about the possible effect of policy which you have the whip hand in changing, is not like the others here.

“Gardaí have mostly policed these demonstrations passively, ostensibly to uphold the democratic right to protest and so as not to strengthen the movement by feeding propaganda – an approach that seemed to have backfired spectacularly last week.”
If the protestors were, say, left anarchists stopping the operation of a stock exchange rather than a public library would the police have given them an escort into the building protecting them from counterprotests? Well no, because we saw what happened when people protested a gas pipleline (footage of non-violent sit-down protestors being dragged off the road and beaten by Gardaí described as “scuffles broke out between Gardaí and protestors” on the national news).

Those media outlets furiously deleting their tweets containing interviews with far right figures after the riots broke out, do they JAQ and support free speech by interviewing left anarchists around these times? You know the answer to that. Listening to their arguments is not a courtesy given to very left progressives.

Instead of the narrative here from the establishment being “we done fucked up. We let the far right fester and we have by our actions ushered them into a position of actual, if not electoral, power” it is “we need facial recognition software all over the place to catch the people robbing FootFuckingLocker like I give a fuck”. Firstly the Gardaí refuse to use camera based enforcement of bus lanes or of traffic lights for spurious “privacy” concerns (1) - and they have no concern for privacy anywhere else. Secondly they could stop this at source by dealing with the fascists they know by name that they escorted into libraries without illegal mass surveillance of the population. Thirdly focusing on property damage, in particular to a bunch of very wealthy companies, is ignoring the actual fact that these fuckers could riot every night for a month without even being in touching distance of the very real, long lasting harm that the Dublin Car Park Owners’ Alliance (2) have actually done to Dublin.

(1) We’ve had camera based enforcement of private road tolls for decades but for some reason that doesn’t have any privacy concerns. Allowing drivers to behave with impunity on city streets does, but stopping rich corporations turning profits doesn’t…

(2) Officially the Dublin Retailers Alliance but they are only for companies that run large car parks that happen to also have shops and the only issue that they actually lobby on, relentlessly, is against livable cities, walkable streets, public transport, and, their public enemy no. 1: pedestrian streets! The most prominant member of that owns the largest shop that was a target of looters.

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