Japanese Red Cross under fire for using "overly sexualized" manga character in blood drive poster

That’s fair, i don’t mind sexiness/kink but i guess it can turn me off at times because its used as a lazy crutch so often in various media and art. That said if the overall series is worth watching i’ll give it a chance.

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Like I said, I think they are trying to do some clever commentary on fan service, but don’t quiet get there 100%. But it’s very bawdy, funny as hell, great actions scenes, with some truly uncomfortable moments, and much like Gurren Lagan, it ends up being a narrative in a much bigger narrative (though not as big as bigger narrative of Gurren lagan - close, though).

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I do appreciate the context :smiley: All i knew was that people kept recommending it without really saying why i should watch it so i’ve just blown it off as an overhyped series. I’ll put it on my to-watch-next list.

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I really did enjoy it. Let me know what you think if you get around to it sometime soon. For me, it’s up there with One Punch Man and Attack on Titans for newer animes that I enjoyed (still have not seen later seasons of those, either, so I’ll have to pick up DVDs at our annual anime convention this year, I think).

Have you seen Gurren Lagan? It’s a different studio, but same creators. Also, good, with less problematic content, I’d argue.

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I haven’t seen Gurren Lagan but i am familiar with the big picture stuff of that one (the overall tone, weirdness, and humor). It’s also on my to-watch list, i’m just lousy at starting new shows in general regardless if its anime or not. I do like Studio Trigger though, i recently re-watched one of their shows SSSS.Gridman with my roommate as she hadn’t seen it, that show also comments on otaku obsessions and mental health in an interesting way.

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Yes, but the other side of this is that, if it comes from a westerner, and not a local, people will consider it to be a continuation of our long tradition of western cultural imperialism.

Unless they’re committing human rights violations like putting people in death camps or something, I would say that’s a legitimate criticism. I’m sure every other westerner throughout our history who has gone around the world trying to impose our culture on others was just as convinced that they were right as we are now.

This is not to say that we’re wrong, but rather that our history of cultural imperialism is such that we are justifiably not perceived as having the credibility or moral authority to be imposing our values like this on other cultures, and that they need to hear it from one of their own for it to have credibility.

I suppose

was a little too (uh oh, what’s the word) …inscrutable? Sorry.

D’oh! I did miss that. Sorry.

I do think the original poster was assuming that all manga is maybe not porn, but irredeemable tripe, which is most certainly is not.

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Not really, frankly. It’s more like when white cis men are uncomfortable whenever something seems to intrude on their safe space. Japanese reactions tend to be “those prudish westerners trying to ruin our fun that they don’t understand” - even when the complaints are about how maybe there shouldn’t be so many rapey and underage stuff easily available. Complaints about western cultural imperialism tends to come up when they get way too defensive. It was the same when complaints were made about a game where the player stalks and rapes a mother and her daughters (yes, that’s the actual gameplay). Following this incident some Japanese porn game companies region blocked visitors from outside Japan to avoid having to deal with accountability. Although some used hilariously defensive notes to the equivalent of “YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND OUR CULTURE”, I don’t think you need to be a western cultural imperialist to be on the opinion that perhaps maybe such games should be, at the very least, heavily regulated.

As for this Red Cross issue - here’s a Twitter thread where a Japanese woman complains about the poster, and consequently gets dogpiled with the Japanese equivalent of “ugh SJW feminazi trying to ban free speech ur the real oppressor!” in the replies. As mentioned previously in this thread, Japanese society (never mind the male side of the otaku community) is pretty damn sexist and male chauvinism is rampant - and again, this is not a western cultural imperialist thing, there are actual feminists in Japan, people campaigning for women’s rights, equality, etc. (Not that westerners should feel encouraged to jump in and speak up for Japanese women, mind.)

By the way, someone on Twitter linked this article about the same situation happening previously - they had to have a “too sexy” poster redesigned following complaints - not by westerners.

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First Episode:
DISCIPLINARY COMMITTEE CHAIR IRA GAMAGOORI

All salute Student Council President Satsuki Kiryuin!

STUDENT COUNCIL PRESIDENT SATSUKI KIRYUIN

Fear is Freedom!
Subjugation is Liberation
Contradiction is Truth!
Those are the truths of this world!
Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!

ME

Not another Japanese high school drama :frowning:

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Confirmed.

A relatively high profile woman here replied in one thread to the effect of “I have no boobs (あたしはおっぱいがない) *1 *2 does that mean I’m under sexualized?” Lots of women agreeing to that following.

Just as I was reading the thread on my phone the dang twitter client decided to refresh the timeline on me and I couldn’t find it again.

1 it has become popular/trendy for women to use the hiragana “あたし” to overemphasize feminine speech on twitter

2 おっぱい being basically slang so “boobs” not breasts. 乳房 (chibusa) is the formal word for breast/breasts

Damn right! Were I not a tattooed foreigner who isnt allowed to give blood here I would be doing that regularly.

Likely reason is high prevalence of anemia in young Japanese women

I thought I saw an error but my middle aged eyes dont see i before ! very well on my monitor so wasn’t sure, just assumed the i was there.

Yep. Confirmed. In that case the original ad included “panty shots” which got complaints from all across the political spectrum here. Both men and women said it was unbecoming of the SDF to use that sort of advertising.

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Yuta addresses this in the video. To paraphrase, breasts of any size may be drawn in sexualized manner, by making the shirt appear more sheer tighter, or clingier; or by over-emphazing size, nipples or cleavage.

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I mean, this is obviously a bad faith argument - “so boobs are bad?” “so women with large breats are anti-feminist?” I think everyone sees what the issue is here, the character is very obviously supposed to be titillating and sexy, it’s not just the boobs, it’s the pervy face she makes, etc. It’s just that some people don’t think it’s a problem while others do. And if women make these bad faith arguments because they don’t see the big deal - well, sure? Women are not a monolith, there are women in the alt-right as well…

(It’s kind of like the “strong female characters” who wear tiny bikinis and “use their sexuality to manipulate men” which of course in practice means showing off their bodies to titillate male viewers, etc. etc… but when someone points it out it’s “well but she’s doing it because she wants to so it’s not objectification!” and “but she manipulates men/can beat men up, if anything the male characters are victims!”)

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i didn’t realize tony the tiger had a girlfriend

:grin: From the same source who claimed the “Bagel Head” trend…

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