Prospective jurors refuse to serve under rapist-friendly judge Aaron Persky

[beschizza]

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[Papasan]

You are a warrior — with a solid steel spine.

Joe Biden is an awesome human, and that young lady is courage personified.

[PatrickD]

I came here to say pretty much the same thing.

[bibliophile20]

If juries refuse to serve under this guy on a consistent basis, will that have the potential for long term career impacts?

[aluchko]

@bibliophile20

If juries refuse to serve under this guy on a consistent basis, will that have the potential for long term career impacts?

It’s just a fraction and within a month none will remember his name any more.

But in the meantime I wonder what will happen to the affected cases. Is there a legitimate concern that an ideological subset of jurors removing themselves from the pool will bias the outcome?

[timstellmach]

@aluchko

Is there a legitimate concern that an ideological subset of jurors removing themselves from the pool will bias the outcome?

That would be the ideological subset of staunch anti-rapists.

[billstewart]

The judge could have charged them with contempt of court - he’s apparently got some political awareness for not doing that, and it’s brave of the jurors to be willing to refuse (especially the first one.)

What he really has to worry about is the prosecutors and DA boycotting his courts, which they’ve occasionally done to judges they disapprove of in this county, and which is seriously rough on a judge’s career.

[infundibulum]

I know this probably isn’t the place (but I’m not sure there’s an open thread for things like this). But I finally stood up, publicly, to a guy who was really horrible to me after I was raped. It’ll never be as amazing as what this young woman wrote, and it took 7 years, but it felt really good. He sees nothing wrong with hanging around with the guy, and inviting the guy out to hang out with his friends, to this day.

I feel a little high.

On topic: Refusing to serve on juries for this guy is the right thing to do. I hope it hurts him.

[PhasmaFelis]

@timstellmach

That would be the ideological subset of staunch anti-rapists.

Indeed. Don’t you think that’s a problem, if you’ve got a jury full of pro-rapist people?

Or were you assuming that “ideological” means “bad”?

[Mindysan33]

@infundibulum

but I’m not sure there’s an open thread for things like this

I think it might fit in our victory thread:

Victory!

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It was brave of you to stand up to this guy. Good for you! Fuck that dude! (found a less sarcastic looking gif)

[anon68952647]

@billstewart

it’s brave of the jurors to be willing to refuse (especially the first one.)

Reminds me of an Arlo Guthrie story about resisting the draft.

And the only reason I’m singing you this song now is cause you may know somebody in a similar situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if your in a situation like that there’s only one thing you can do and that’s walk into the shrink wherever you are ,just walk in say “Shrink, You can get anything you want, at Alice’s restaurant.”. And walk out. You know, if one person, just one person does it they may think he’s really sick and they won’t take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony, they may think they’re both faggots and they won’t take either of them. And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in singin a bar of Alice’s Restaurant and walking out. They may think it’s an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice’s Restaurant and walking out. And friends they may thinks it’s a movement.

And that’s what it is, the Alice’s Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement, and all you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come’s around on the guitar.

[longname]

@PhasmaFelis

Don’t you think that’s a problem, if you’ve got a jury full of pro-rapist people?

…picking the jury in the misdemeanor receiving stolen property case…

I’m going with “no”.

[PhasmaFelis]

@longname

I’m going with “no”.

Did you read the post we were actually discussing? The one that starts “If juries refuse to serve under this guy on a consistent basis…”

[Justin_Kalm]

While we’re learning about consent, maybe Vice President Groper Cleveland could practice keeping his hands to himself.

[anon68952647]

@Justin_Kalm

While we’re learning about consent, maybe Vice President Groper Cleveland could…

No.  

[SpunkyTWS]

I know it’s far too much to expect but I still hope the actions of the prospective jurors will keep the judge’s name in the collective memory for much longer than just a month.

[fuzzyfungus]

We’ll all just have to hope that it won’t have a ‘severe impact’ on the poor fellow. It would be horrific to blight his judicial career over one case…

[Hasteur]

Urm… It’s a 18 minute story/song.

[Hasteur]

If the judge is unable to empanel a jury for a case repeatedly, hopefully his superiors (or the prosecution, or the defense) will argue that he needs to be removed from service for cause.

No Severance package, no golden parachude, no pension. The Judge woefully failed at his job and he should have to deal with the consequences.

[Papasan]

Oh, I get it. Whatever your babbling about and RAPE are the same thing…