Jussie Smollett cleared on all charges after emergency hearing

Okay, and here’s the statement that came out of that office, from Foxx’s subordinate who stepped in when she recused herself:

So are they corrupt or are they lairs? Take your pick. I think if the state’s attorney’s office could pin it on CPD they’d happily do that rather than looking like idiots/corrupt.

You originally seemed to be blaming her for talking to Smollett’s family at a time when most people considered him the victim and a prosecution witness, and then recusing herself weeks before he was charged as anything else. If the office was so corrupt, why did the office charge him so heavily in the first place?

The CPD, on the other hand, made untrue public statements and fought independent oversight. If they’d turned it over to the FBI, it might have been a different story. But they made the investigation about themselves and we are where we’re at. Maybe they felt they were owed someone’s head, but that’s not blind justice either. I expect the Police Union to have a different take on it, but they also have a different take on a lot of police-involved situations.

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The real headline should probably be:

Patricia Holmes is a really good lawyer.

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Problems? Let’s see if I can help.

  • One stake is personal, the other global
  • One is innocent until proven guilty, and the other acts guilty as hell
  • One is not a fascist, the other … isn’t.
  • One makes me think of Captain Smollet, which predisposes me to like him. I can’t help it, I was obsessed with Stevenson when I was young and moreover, I don’t want to be helped out of that.
    The other is a dirtbag.
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[citation needed]

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I have no idea. We’re of course both speculating. For me, the mystery of why the state prosecutors would suffer career damage to cover the CPD’s ass in this case is a greater mystery than how they could take a circuitous route toward dropping the case. For all I know they tried their best to bomb the grand jury but CPD’s evidence was too compelling to the jurists. I can’t buy into any reasoning like “the state prosecutors are sufficiently trustworthy that when they say CPD didn’t screw the pooch we can’t possibly trust them,” though.

Exactly. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” is a phrase that is getting a workout this week.

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Because that’s been happening for decades in Chicago? It’s been a corruption machine, from the cops on beat to the DA’s office to the mayor to the governor. It has only recently started to get untangled.

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I think you can go longer than decades.

Corruption is entangled in the very being of Chicago. I don’t mean it in the Chicago = “urban crime” dogwhistle, either. That’s peanuts compared to where the real crime is. I mean graft right up to the very top. It’s built right into the system. Chicago has always been a connected city. It’s not the only one by a longshot, but it is one of the ones famous for it.

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You’re (doh!) Your comment got me wondering if I was imagining people using the word Chicago as an adjective, so I headed over to Urban Dictionary and found something almost as good. :grinning:

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I’m not a bigot but I was one of the few here who didn’t believe his claims from the beginning. That doesn’t mean I was gleeful about him being charged for this. And this latest development is also no surprise. State charges are often meaningless and are drastically reduced or dropped, especially for a case like this where he’s not a repeat offender or a danger to the public. Chicago has about two murders a day and the prosecutor has discretion to focus on those more serious crimes. I said in one of the threads, he’s going to get little or no time on the state charges, and that’s exactly what happened.
His far more serious issue is the upcoming federal case, which hasn’t even begun yet. Federal charges are not going to be dropped like this. Federal time is real time, and must be served 85%.
Lucky for him, he now has the state issue behind him and can focus all his resources on the real fight which has not yet begun.
As for the bigger picture, I never believed his claims from the beginning, but has that changed my views about hate crimes? Of course not! Hate crimes happen, every day, and it doesn’t matter if some hate crime claims turn out to be a hoax. I personally have seen hate crimes happening, and I know it’s real, regardless of this one fairly crazy incident.
Real hate crimes happen, but they don’t have all these crazy details like this situation had, and they have more evidence, which this situation did not have.

You are absolutely not right and this absolutely is not over. Whether it will still be talked about or not, I don’t know.
Look, it’s pretty obvious that he faked the poison powder letters he received just prior to this attack. That’s being investigated by the FBI. They have zero sense of humor or forgiveness for pranks like that. It will also be handled by a United States attorney who is far more serious than Foxx.
Jussie’s real problems haven’t even begun yet.

Can you cite any sources for these “federal charges” other than the far-right tinfoil-hat media?

Or are you just back to victim blaming and making shit up?

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But wait! Don’t forget:

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Obligs:

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I’m not making anything up. Source: ABC News Chicago. Of course the FBI isn’t issuing statements. They don’t. But if a mainstream source like ABC News is making claims like that, that’s not far-right tinfoil hat media. And it stands to reason that he faked the attack after the fake letter poison didn’t get much attention. And we know the FBI and postal inspectors have no sense of humor about these things.
Why are you accusing me of victim blaming? He’s the victim of nothing other than his own bad decisions. I follow facts and common sense wherever it leads to.

I’m guessing the cops aren’t used to doing this to people with enough money to hire a serious lawyer.

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An anonymous source says, “Smollett could still face federal charges.” There are, as of now, no federal charges, and no named source asserting anything about a federal investigation at all.

So just shit talk then.

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