Keurig CEO blames disastrous financials on DRM

Here’s me, falling out of my chair with amazement at someone spending a hundred dollars to heat water. That’s fantastic.

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Can you point to any that actually say otherwise? I can’t presume to know of every libertarian think tank, but these were a few I could think of off the top of my head, so I took a look around.

Reason Foundation: While I don’t see much on their site specifically about the DMCA the magazine/blog has been pretty full throated against it.

Cato’s take, which almost reads like it was written by the EFF:

The Mercatus Center:

Mises Institute:

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There’s some kind of pod-robot coffemajig i the kitchen at work (which I eschew for the Bialetti pot, natch), and it’s got little third-party reusable pods.

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They also stock it with something called “hot apple cider” pods, but those terrify me and I refuse to have any part of their shenanigans.

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It’s a sign of desperation when your sales drop 25%. Notice he’s not apologizing to the consumers they cynically tried to screw over - he’s just saying they guessed wrong that it would work.

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It’s worth pointing out that Keurig brewers use three different styles of coffee “pods”, and the K-cup is the worst of them. There’s also the Rivo, which is for espresso-based beverages (much like Nespresso), and the Vue cup, which was an evolution of the K-cup.

K-cup brewers contain coffee and a filter, and the brewer punches a hole in the top and bottom of the cup, and forces water through it. Anyone who has ever brewed coffee by any other means can almost instantly figure out why this is a poor system. Extraction is inconsistent, and the brewer has no means of adjusting the brewing time. While you can tell most K-cup brewers to brew a cup in one of multiple sizes (depends on the brewer, but most offer anywhere from three to five options, ranging from 6 oz to 20 oz or so), unless you brew a small cup, you’re just going to end up with a big cup of really weak coffee.

The Vue cups, on the other hand, are designed to allow control of brewing time. Same basic concept, but instead of water flowing through at the whim of gravity, two holes are punched in the foil lid: an entrance and and exit. Now, finally, brew time can be adjusted, allowing you to brew longer for a cup that is actually stronger, and making larger cups of coffee less awful (also, the Vue cups are more environmentally friendly; the foil lid peels away, taking the filter and grounds with it, leaving the “cup” itself, which can be recycled).

Unfortunately, it seems that the proliferation of K-cup brewers has been a problem for Vue brewers getting a foothold. As someone who much prefers the arguably superior Vue system, I feel not unlike how I imagine that Betamax owners must have felt as they watched VHS become the videotape standard.

I’ll admit that no pod brewer has anything on traditional and modern manual methods of brewing – I’ll reach for my espresso machine, french press, or aeropress before my Keurig brewer 99% of the time – but there are times when the Keurig is good enough. Like for the rare times that I want a cup of decaf, it’s perfect. Or when I have a bunch of people over and they all want coffee, they get to pick what they want and prepare it the way they want it, and I don’t have to spend the next hour playing barista.

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Soooo, yay Invisible Hand? :slight_smile:

Oh man and the Kcup cocoa is just naaaasty.

They won’t go under. The prevailing wisdom around here, the home of GMCR/K-GM, is that they’re positioning themselves to be bought out by the Coca-Cola company (a current investor).

Even before the earnings announcements, they’ve been shedding jobs (moving some to the ATL/BOS areas) and divesting some of their PP&E capital investments instead of trying to bail out the ship. That rumored cold machine’s ability to make a number of KO products just propels [oops, that’s a Pepsi product] the rumors.

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You don’t need to worry much, assuming you’re using food-grade plastic (which bags for sous-vide sold in the U.S. are) there’s nothing harmful in the plastic that could leech into your food, plus even if there were, sous-vide temeperatures aren’t hot enough to cause that kind of leeching.

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DAmn right.

This and an egg timer so you can go away & do something in the tiny amount of time needed for it.

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Superior to Keurig

we had a keurig (a gift actually from a relative - which really surprised us, because this person should have known that we thought it was wasteful, overpackaged, hard to recycle (we compost our grounds) and don’t care for flavoured. But then it conked out after a year so we kept our old espresso maker. (We make 2x the espresso and then add heated milk, and that’s great for us) When the espresso maker finally gave in… My wife found a very nice replacement at a thrift store.

Wait…you’re in Japan?

Yep, where canned coffee is called coffee.

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BOSS!!

Though I did find decent coffee in Kyoto:

Japan has a lot of good small local coffee shops, often run by retiree coffee nuts as a semi-hobby. My favorite is only open 4 days a week, but it’s nice.
The canned stuff is good for an emergency caffeine hit or for its…internal effects. If your “trains aren’t running on time” a cold can of Boss of Georgia will fix you right up.

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Now there’s an image.

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Thank you. You solved the problem with three words-highly efficient. How many words have been expended from those avoiding the answer?

Thanks for the info. I boil a small beaker of water in the microwave in 2 minutes, then it takes a couple more minutes for the grounds to drain. Adding more flavors is a good idea and gives that custom taste.

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