Killer gets 180-day sentence for YouTube stunt gone wrong

It’s almost as if machines specifically designed to be the best and easiest to use thing for killing people extremely reliably, will reliably kill people when used in a way consistent with the manual.

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It’s a machine designed for killing things. It’s inappropriate to ever EVER aim a machine for killing things at someone or something you don’t intend to kill. It’s really that simple.

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:confused: Actually the manual warns specifically against this sort of thing.

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Fair that she is going to, with the same sense of judgement she has had her whole life, be kept out of jail so she can raise two young children?

That’s profoundly unfair to the children.

Does the manual really say “never point at another person?”

A lot of adcopy seems to indicate that guns are for “shooting bad guys.” Or at the very least “protection.”

I can’t really think of any effective way you can use a gun for protection without the idea of shooting coming into play.

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No. the other 11 people would slap that person.

A. Desert. Eagle.

Prisons are for people with this kind of bad judgement, who have killed other people with it.

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He was completely complicit in this act. Absent any evidence that she manipulated him into it or that he was mentally handicapped or not up to the task of consenting, seems to me it’s primarily on him, and he already paid the price. Any sentence for her a) harms the kids and b) doesn’t really teach a lesson beyond “be smarter with weapons”, and seems to me she already learned that lesson. And if she didn’t learn her lesson that way, it’s not like prison is going to be the thing that makes her go “a ha, now I understand”.

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Sure, I know the eagle shoots though far more things then most guns (maybe “all hand guns”), but not everyone does. Plus you are making a fairly big bet on “people know a DE will punch through even the thickest book like a little wet toilet paper” will out weigh what most people would think when they saw her emotional reaction after the shot.

I mean I think you have to be pretty dumb to think a DE will be stopped by a book, and dumber still to try that with any gun without a dry run. Sure. But “is she dumb” isn’t the issue. It’ll be “after watching her react, do people think she was already punished…do they think she is a killer that will do it again, or a fool who won’t”

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  1. I don’t recall ever reading a manual that ever mentions anything about how to use it for self defense. Only safe handling. I’ll post a link to the PDF of the manual of the Desert Eagle.

  2. I would never use a Desert Eagle for self defense unless there was no other choice. Even then I’d use want to use it as a club. Besides being not very practical, it leaves one open to attacks from an over zealous DA.

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who is everyone here, because we’re talking about the two people who owned the gun.

You have to mind YOUR quotes. I said no such thing, and you really aren’t going to put that one me.

I find your description of this theoretical trial similarly mind boggling.

You’re literally putting your choice of words as though they’re mine, and also telling the future without a hint of the word maybe.

Frankly I don’t buy what you sell, that way. I have you blocklisted, which leads me to believe I’ve asked you to not engage with me in past, for some reason or another. I’d like to return to that status quo, and I hope i can count on you to do your part. When I look into the future, maybe I see you not replying to me.

Here is a picture of a kitten.

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that’s a cute kitten.

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Please don’t, because I’m under the same impression as @white_noise.

Namely that homicide is any killing of one human by another, regardless of lawfulness, and that manslaughter and murder are subsets of criminal homicide.

You have some other take on this matter?

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This was a spectacularly stupid stunt that resulted in someone’s death, so there should be some consequences to make sure the dumfuck thinks twice before her next stupid stunt. But I don’t see how a prolonged prison sentence is going to teach her anything useful, or benefit society.

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You live in Trumplethinskin’s America, and can say that with a straight face?

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Just to contribute, the following fall under “Homicide, Bodily Harm, Suicide” according to Minnesota law: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=609

  1. Murder
  2. Manslaughter
  3. Criminal Vehicular Homicide
  4. Criminal Vehicular Bodily Harm/Unborn Child
  5. Suicide

One could extrapolate where manslaughter resides, since it’s sandwiched between “Murder” and a crime that actually contains homicide.

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I think she should get off lighter than Burroughs

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What do I think? I think my outrage quota has been met and exceeded for the week, and I don’t have that much energy for this kind of nonsense.

If it could be shown that the victim was unaware of what she’d be shooting at him? I Ike if she had prepped a. 22 in front of him than whipped out the hand cannon at the last moment?

Nah, on second thought this is just another argument for mandatory handgun insurance.

Somebody is always that stupid.

I read the linked article, though, and you’re right. It says it’s as powerful as a .308 rifle, which is completely fucking insane. I had no idea a pistol that powerful even existed, and I don’t see how you could shoot one. A .308 will go through a foot-thick log easily so I don’t know how you could think anything you’re holding in your hands could stop it.

That said, I still think what we’re looking at here is stupidity, not malice, and locking her up for longer ain’t gonna make her any less dumb.

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[folds hands together] She was five when Jackass went off the air. It’s probable that she’s never seen the show.