Killer gets 180-day sentence for YouTube stunt gone wrong

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tl;dr: Short of actual neglect or abuse, kids are going to be what they’re going to be.

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Maybe just an unusually fast learner?

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My apologies, I didn’t intend to put words in your mouth, and definitely see how using quote marks would imply that I was. I had intended to indicate air quotes.

Oh, I had thought the maybe was implied. For the record, yeah, that was a maybe. Or a “Josh finds it likely, but not 100% likely” (quotes denote air quotes)

Well, I’m sorry you (maybe) won’t see my apology. Other then that I’m perfectly at peace with someone deciding I’m full o’ crap and not wanting to see what I say.

I’ve been a long time off-and-on reader of BB, and I don’t always agree with how contributors parse their stories, but this one I found especially frustrating because I’m not familiar with the contributor and it doesn’t attempt the barest minimum good faith effort to present the story accurately or in context. It doesn’t even seem a matter of differing perspectives, but intentional ignorance or laziness in the name of clickbait.

So yes, it was the straw that led me to make an account and comment for my first time. I think there are better butts of jokes than people so desperate to make a living and profit via controversy they tried a dumb, deadly stunt.

Humor shouldn’t punch down, and that’s not a habit I had associated with BB in the past. Maybe I just haven’t read it in awhile, or maybe I’m just older than when I first came to it.

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A cyber-prodigy, of course; how silly of me!

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Yeah, basically. If you do nothing but follow your 50,000 year old parenting instincts, you’ll cuddle them when they’re sad, and feed them when they’re hungry, wallop them hard if they bite you in the testicles, and talk to them in some fashion. And that seems to be most of what they need, although one can certainly do incrementally better.

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Oof, yeah. That book’s hard to get through.

(I did get a lot further into Moby Dick than Ready Player One, though.)

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so, you’re equating not taking a common preventative measure which might avert a disease later in life, with pointing a loaded desert eagle at someone and pulling the trigger.

That’s an interesting, but false, equivalence.

How do you logic not doing one thing is comparable to doing some other thing?

[narrators voice: You Don’t]

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In this tale, we’re dealing with someone who claims not to recognize deadly force as deadly force. This person basically isn’t going to recognize, reliably, if they are themselves abusing the kids. Reliably being the key word.

We know there is a lack of a necessary basic, even common, sense, upstairs.

The prisons where I live are based on rehabilitation. For the common wealth.

kind of appropriate, considering the circumstances

I hope my comment didn’t come across as snark directed at you, rather than at the tone of (some) BBS threads. If it did, I apologize. At any rate, it wasn’t the best way to welcome a new user.

Rereading the initial post, I don’t think @SeamusBellamy meant to condemn or to make fun of a tragedy. His light style of writing in this case may not have fit the story, but to be fair, he did present the post as a way of starting discussion on the appropriateness of the sentence. I think the generally thoughtful and empathetic nature of the responses in this thread shows that this site has not yet sunk completely into the swamp.

Stick around and, like the rest of us, you too can be disappointed on a daily basis. :grin:

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Not equating quantitatively, but qualitatively; they are much the same thing, both variants of what philosophers call the Butler problem.

I don’t live in anyone’s America thankyouverymuch. I am one of those Devious Foreign Persons you’ve been warned about. :wink:

The most unreasonable load of .50AE I am aware of has something north of 2 kJ at the muzzle, and a muzzle velocity of a bit less than 500 m/s. .308 Winchester easily does 800 m/s and 3.5 kJ. And keeps that punch longer, of course. Generally speaking, no handgun no matter how unreasonable is a match for a rifle. That said, .50AE is plenty unreasonable and its muzzle energy brushes against .30-30 which is terrifying for a handgun.

That said, that’s just paper. In practice the Desert Eagle is a terrible gun to actually use. I’d be a lot more nervous, all other things being equal, of someone with a handy, reasonable-sized handgun chambered in 9x19mm and ill intent, seeing as you can get huge magazines in that caliber and it’ll kill you just as dead.

(Disclaimer: information based on largely engineering knowledge, not practical firearms experience. I’m not a firearms expert, not even close.)

At least one person was, and managed to talk someone else into assisting them.

So the article exaggerated. That makes a little more sense. I have a .308 hunting rifle, and I can’t even imagine how it would be possible to shoot a round like that out of a pistol.

Well, it is known that a limited number of ‘obrez’ (lit. cut-down) Mosin-Nagants circulated during the Russian civil war and WWII as, effectively large and horrifying pistols. Those fired 7.62x54mmR rounds which are equivalent in power (to within a reasonable margin) to a .308 Winchester. That said, I don’t have a citation and they may have been largely for intimidation.

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