KLM funds new "Flying-V" plane design where passengers sit inside the wings

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When it comes to Mussolini impersonations no one touches Alexei Sayle.

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I don’t think that I would characterize Went the Day Well?" and an anti war film. More of an attempt to stiffen resolve and promote the idea that “This war is your war too,” on the homefront.

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And in another sense, a flat turn is inefficient because it doesn’t use the wing. Just as a rudder in a ship the tail surfaces of an aircraft change the direction that the plane (or ship) is pointing but does little to change the direction that it is moving. But when they are pointed in a slightly direction to the one that they are moving, the asymetrical motion of the air (or water) across the (fuselage/hull/wings) generates a force changes the direction that it is moving. The wings are able to generate much more force (or lift) than the fuselage can. they have to, to keep the plane in the air. By banking, you use some of the lift generated by the wings to generate a force that is lateral (relative to the ground) to the direction that the airplane is moving in, and so turn more quickly. This is also why steep banks and sharp turns can cause the wing to stall.

Edited to add. And the same factor is true for lifting bodies and flying wings. The plane HAS to be able to generate enough force (lift) in a direction that is vertical to the orientation of the aircraft to fly. Turning is more efficient if you USE that ability to change the direction that the plane is moving. A coordinated turn like that spills fewer drinks too…

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As a kid I was shocked and surprised by the level of death on the part of the plucky defenders; so it provided a strong anti-war message for me :smiley: but you are right about it being a propaganda piece at the time.

I doubt there’d by much bumps due to wing flex. This thing looks like it might be rigid, at least as compared to current designs. But a lot more slow-ish up and downs, perhaps as bad/fun as a roller coaster?

Or maybe this design allows turns without banking? So more or less a flat ride unless things go wrong.

High-speed rail? Unpossible!

With all this Steve Austin talk, I’m gonna ask… why the hell hasn’t it been remade? At least it would be something different than yet another superhero movie.

Edited to combine multiple replies into one, as the nice robot asked me to. But damn, that was a pain… Oh! and a typo.

That cat needs a collar with that embroidered on it.

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Airliners usually don’t operate at such a high altitude that the stall speed and the speed of sound are quite so close together.

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I’m no expert but it’s my understanding that rudder yaw is almost certain to create motion sickness. You yaw around the center similar to the roll, so the sideways motion will also tend to make people air sick the farther they are away from the center of rotation, and most passenger planes are much longer than wide. Pilots being on one of the far ends are in possibly the worst position, and also the last people you want getting sick.

My layman’s understanding is that in a roll and pitch up turn most of the force is perceived as downward, so the brain interprets it as gravity, not as unexpected movement that doesn’t agree with visual stimulation.

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I would not want to be in one of those off axis seats during a heavy cross wind landing :open_mouth:

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This design might shave fuel consumption by 20% in two to three decades but at current growth rates, global passenger-km will have increased by 20% by 2021.

The airline industry just doesn’t fucking get it.

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This kind of wishful prototyping is just for marketing purposes methinks.

No, no, no - we’re gonna have fusion-powered flying wings piloted by strong AI systems any day now.
[Looks out of window, checks watch.]
Well, planes always are a little late, aren’t they?

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