I would sue
Agree with your points in general, but citation please?
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If you donāt want to pay for a seat that suits you better, just recline your own seat and we can all be happy.
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Elusis, its not the person in front of you whose fault it is that you did not have your work done in a responsible time where you wouldnāt have to inconvenience someone else. Perhaps the person in front of you was out partying all night and now he needs the recline so he can can some sleep? The importance of your work is no more important than the guy in front of you wanting to take a nap relative to everyone else.
āthrowing their seat back at youā you almost make it sound like assault!!! very good
Itās not your space, your space is the seat you are sitting on, that is it. You have no right to stop someone from reclining the seat that they paid for.
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Next time, perhaps plan on the fact that people have the right to recline their seats (usually after the departure). If you consider that the space in front of your knees is really not yours, then this may not happen to you next time.
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Is that what it says on your confirmation page when you buy your ticket? You pay for the space you are afforded after the person in front of you has lowered their seat. It says no where on the ticket that your purchase allows you to prevent another passenger from using their chair, their light, their air conditioning, their windowā¦ do you see where Iām going? You pay for the right to sit in a seat, and that comes with your right to lower your seat if you feel like it. Donāt like it? Buy the seat in front of you so you can control that seat as well, maybe even upgrade your ticket to first class so you can get the extra space you are really asking for at the expense of others.
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Iām waiting for someone in the air traveling class to plead poverty, and Iām amazed it hasnāt happened yet. Or did I miss it already?
Bull. Iām 6ā8" and 350lbs and fit behind a reclined seat. I take regular trips domestically and internationally in economy for work, and I recline my seat people recline in front of me.
As an aside, I have never met someone who works on an airplane that I like. Itās a hallmark of someone who thinks efficiency means working in their free time. Watch a movie and deal with the cattle class like a normal adult.
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I know I said "wowā last night, but the epicness of this thread has now earned a solid Wowza!
6ā3", 220, and I fly econ every other week, usually on very short notice so the econ plus are sold out. My solution to this problem?
I get me work done before the flight, read a little during boarding, then have a glass of vino and a melatonin. If I absolutely need to send an emailā¦ I warn my coworkers beforehand, " damn, this flight has no internet".
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Are your sensibilities really so delicate that you consider getting water thrown on you assault?
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When the airlines makes the rat cage too small the rats attack each other.
Seats are made to recline, stop fighting people. Nowhere on your ticket does it state that you are guaranteed a functional work space while in the air.
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Everyone has a right to recline their seat so long as seats can recline. Should you maybe ask beforehand? Sure. Thatād be super polite.
However, nobodyās need for extra room for their legs or laptop outweighs anyone elseās need to lean back. People who buy these knee defenders are essentially saying āIām more important than everyone else here and Iām going to alter the system so that my needs are more fully met.ā
I get that flying economy sucks. I cannot afford 1st class either. Iām a big dude and I get very uncomfortable during flights. However, me being uncomfortable doesnāt mean I get to make other people uncomfortable. Everyone on that plane purchased the same product (a seat on that plane) and itās unfair for some people to have to make sacrifices because youāre a busybody who has to get work done with your laptop or you are uncomfortable. Everyone is uncomfortable, everyone is busy. Order a whiskey and shut the hell up.
(edit: punctuation)
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I blame the airlines for everything everyone above is whinging about. They decided to cram us in like sardines without the commensurate tranquilizers that would help us not care. Could we buy more leg space? Sure, but for many people the difference between a $300 ticket and an $800 ticket is not traveling at all.
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@pdf @elusis @Daneyul
Our physical stature is no one elseās responsibility. I pay more money when I go to a restaurant because I need to eat more; a giant friend of mine needs 2-3 entrees.
If you need more space than allotted to your coach ticket, because of height or girth, you should pay for it rather than taking it from someone else. To expect otherwise would be like expecting some other random diner to pay part of your meal.
Airline seats are designed to recline. You have that right as well. You donāt have the right to take it away from someone else. If you want, you could talk to them at the start of the flight and let them know of your need for special accommodation since you didnāt buy enough space on the plane.
Yes, it sucks, itās not fair, airlines are cramming people in, travelling in economy is far more tiring, and some people may not realize that rapidly reclining can suck for the person behind them.
Take solace in the fact that every inch of height increases, on average, yearly income by 800$. Should come in handy for buying more space on the plane.
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British planes seem to be better. The steward on British Air gave me three free beers as soon as we took off for London. Iām fairly tall and ugly, and I guess he wanted me well tranquilized quickly. My children were tremendously amused by thisā¦
US Air, on the other hand, wanted to charge me top dollar for crappy beer halfway to Boston, and they only took credit cards, no cash allowed.
It has never happened to me. i think your are replying to the wrong comment.
BA are also bloody expensive.
I used to fly a transatlantic route fairly regularly, and BA were about twice the cost of the equivalent SAS route (for a direct LHR flight, rather than a layover in Copenhagen.
That said, SAS were great too.
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There should be tequila shots at boarding.
āZone 4 can now lick shoot and suck and please check any oversized bags.ā
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Relevant.
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Iām interested in the curve of this thread. Like others, I was surprised by the vigorous defending of Knee Defenders here on BB (along with implications that anyone who reclines in their seat are basically assaulting those behind them). But most of the comments in the last eight hours or so have been mocking these opinions.
Someone could write a very nice dissertation on how conversations flow in forums.
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