Let's discuss sexuality

Why on earth do you think you’d get banned for that?

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It seems to be easier to accomplish lately.

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I see a bunch of roiling turmoil regarding bans. I have seen nothing related to gender identity. On the other hand, people get banned and comments disappear, so maybe I don’t know what’s going on. Is this something we should talk about here or take it out of band?

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You are correct, I apologize.

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It is a sensitive topic, and communities (that I’ve been lightly in communication with) take the ideas expressed in the linked article very seriously. As it should be, since they are, uh, serious :smile:

Also, it is difficult especially in forums like this to communicate real nuance. Which is why I usually just tell jokes or puns.

But the linked article struck a nerve, not because the author was wrong or that the author didn’t have a legitimate grievance, but that the author went down a rhetorical path that implied I was not valid or correct in my gender identity. That’s the kind of argument style that raises my hackles. I may be a cis middle aged white dude, but that doesn’t mean I’m not a cis middle aged white dude.

Perhaps I read it wrong. I do that all the time :smile: regardless, happy Halloween!

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Oh, and I’m trying to get banned for Cod-awful puns.

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You’re going to have to bait a lot harder chum.

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I am offended at these fish comments in the sexuality thread.

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Said the walking banana pun.

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( we need to reel it in a bit, before it gets away from us. )

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I think you should be banned for suggesting that you’re middle-aged.

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What traits of manhood are inherent to men, apart from those that have some physical basis? I have seen a few things that make (say) a 25 year old man in one culture more similar to other 25 year old men in widely different ones than 25 year old women in that culture, so there does seem to be something there. However, it seems pretty hard to define and the way this plays out in different cultures is often very different and seems to show how little of this is written in stone. I really don’t get the assignment of superficial cultural elements to one or the other gender though, although the justifications people use seem to reveal a lot about underlying assumptions:

The generally accepted rule is pink for the boys, and blue for the girls. The reason is that pink , being a more decided and stronger color, is more suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl.
(June 1918 edition of the trade publication Earnshaw’s Infants’ Department,)

I also think the concern that some people show about children liking the wrong things is revealing - boys shouldn’t play with dolls, because they’ll become effeminate or something. I mean, if men are inherently oriented to certain things, have a little confidence that he’ll turn out appropriately oriented, right? Otherwise, maybe girls and boys aren’t as different from each other after all, and people’s concern shows that they are pushing binary roles on people in the implicit knowledge that these roles are largely cultural?

The above isn’t supposed to be a criticism of your statement, just voicing a general frustration about society. However, it would be good to hear from people who know more about this than me what is that defines “manhood” and “womanhood”, and what makes someone identify with the other one (or neither, both etc.) where this is not related to their physical body? Again, this is an expression of ignorance, not denial.

It’s weird, I was preparing myself for the possibility of gaining weight (which would suck, as I like cycling and running), but instead I lost 15% of my body weight. With another medicine I was told that my pulse would probably go up, but it went below 45 bpm. I switched medicines, and it doubled. Now I feel like a hamster half the time.

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Hey, for most people with ADHD, the stimulant medications make one feel calmer, and sometimes even sleepy. But those are just side effects of proper focus. Your physiological functions will still run at a quicker rate. Your heart rate will increase a bit, and so will your blood pressure. There’s going to be a general release of catecholamines. For someone like me, who’s both ADHD and enjoys stimulants, the euphoria comes on with the higher doses. I’ve been on ADHD meds a long time, and stimulants have gotten me to a place where I can “normally” focus and adding a bump or two more puts me up with the meth users. So I switched to modafinil which is hard to impossible to abuse, and put myself out of reach of classical stimulants.

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I am not suggesting anything universal about identifying as a man. And I don’t think an external agent can accurately tell you what you identify as. Heck, I might be the only self identifying man in the world :slight_smile: (okay, Ron Swanson).

It was the statement, point blank that there arent en and women, and it was all made up that had me shaking my head. Yes, there is a spectrum, but there are also nodes so far to either end as to be a specific gender.

Cultural differences certainly abound. I am not ignoring those. But the specifics of culture is (in my experience) how you express who you are externally , not internally. But maybe I’m wrong, and I actually am a shark with human teeth ;D

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There are men and women, and a spectrum. The lines are blurrier than we were raised to acknowledge, but there are classifiable zones with plenty of room for discussion and debate. I thought the article was 66% good, with about a third total crap.

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Well, also, I somewhat disagree with @japhroaig, I don’t think he at all crossed the line. He said nothing particular disrespectful.

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Disagreements are the soul of conversations. And I hope it is clear that ‘this is what I believe’, as opposed to ‘this is the way it is’.

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I know, and I know you. I don’t think you’d get banned for what you said, because it’s not at all out of bounds.

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Can you clarify what this means? Just sharing our own personal stories about sexuality, perhaps?

I for one am tired of all the sex bullshit in my head, that never ever leaves me alone, and I blame the last billion years of evolution. So fuck you, nature. Not literally. I guess.

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Sorry, not right now. I’m not in the mood. Heheheh.

I’m gonna take a little break… a few weeks maybe. I’m sure there are others on here who would love to take up your question.

(be nice to him, please!!!)