Libertarian Party embraces antisemitism

And is an unambiguously GOOD thing. State backing for smashing white supremacy and fascism is the sort of thing the state SHOULD be doing, because it provides MORE freedom for MORE people. That’s the problem with the libertarian position over all, of course.

Libertarians generally speaking DO support use of force to protect their economic interests. They believe that private property is sacrosanct, and that’s the ONLY legitimate role of federal government - defending property rights. Defending human rights is not considered legitimate by libertarians.

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We used to joke they were the “Ps” party – pot, pistols, property, porn & profits. (Later on, it seems, if one cared to scratch harder they’d find “pedo” as well.)

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I’ve heard that but I could also believe it would reflect the biases of its participants. Honestly I don’t really know. The question of what a market would look like if nobody was setting up rules seems like nonsense to me, like asking how a person would act if nobody raised them. :man_shrugging:

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“It isn’t violence when money does it.”

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Ron Paul has probably driven quite a few racists, anti-semites, etc to identify themselves as libertarians.

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Neo-nazis? Out of uniform, I can’t tell them from the regular brand myself.

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I’m trying to remember when I first heard it, that the Libertarian position was “The government can’t tell me my girlfriend has to be in a car seat”

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Hardly. Excluding customers for some arbitrary personal feature means you are restricting a market for arbitrary reasons having nothing to do with profit.

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Ludwig von Mises’ mother was Jewish (which I suppose makes him Jewish as well). I doubt he would condone those claiming his legacy and yet dabbling in antisemitic tropes (and of course Zelinsky, also featured in the meme, is Jewish as well).

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Nazis were put in the ground by antifascist forces in May 1945. Neo-Nazis are their halfwit successors.

Except that there’s never been a free and open market, never will be. There are always rules, either set by governments or enough of the players, not always written down or in plain sight, but they are there.

In the above, a business operating under racist rules will attract more racist clients, and if they have more economic clout (because racist), that will tend to benefit the business.

Libertarian games theory always becomes very simplistic when it’s convenient to do so.

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" Why even Robert Nozick, the philosophical father of libertarianism, gave up on the movement he inspired."

One of the goals of libertarianism is to affirm the powerlessness of governments in solving large scale social problems-- like global warming (supposedly based on the horrible track record of authoritarian and totalitarian regimes in solving their imagined large scale social problems)

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Bigotry is rarely actually consistent - it’s all about grasping at tools that helps them to keep the hate-fest up. Mises’ works help them to spin their worldview as coherent, intellectually consistent, and give it a veneer of respectability, so they embrace his ideas. As far as I know, he was not raised in the Jewish faith, so they can safely ignore the fact of his parentage.

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Except antisemitism is more often motivated by racial than religious animus, which is why Fritz Haber was not exempted from Nazi persecution, and why the caricatures depict supposedly stereotypical Jewish features like the nose rather than religious attire like a kippa.

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I’m aware of that… But once again, there have always been exceptions made in the service of expediency, even as those collaborators are often later victimized themselves.

But he’s not even alive, so they can safely dismiss the fact of his heritage even more because he says the things that they want to hear about the economy.

Bigotry is not consistent, it is based more on expediency of the moment, even if the end goal is complete annihilation. Whatever gets them to the end point of annihilation of their enemies is welcomed in the short term. Every single time.

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Yep.
You got a LOT of right-wingers joining the Libertarians when Obama became president.
They were ALL about the “screw the gubment” and “Yay guns” but then somehow glossed over the “yay gay marriage! and Yay drugs”

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And racist rules are those set and maintained by a strong government hand. The very opposite of alleged Libertarian ethos. The whole philosophy of that crowd boils down to a 3 word slogan “Might makes right”.

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You don’t think things like “no black people in our diner” were all the result of government policy, do you? People literally did things like fill in swimming pools when the government required them to share. Markets of any type are made up of people…people that are never actually simple profit maximizers, and unfortunately sometimes are bigots.

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Until it’s not. It’s fascism when the government supports racist policies, and it is dismantling fascism when the government rolls back those laws and outlaws that kind of discrimination. It’s MORE democratic to protect the rights of individuals to be free and safe.

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Reason bravely straddles the fence

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