Livable Cities

You ask a good question.

In a transit-centric model…

  • you have a work computer (which you leave at work) and a home computer (which stays at home, and all your files are stored on a work server, on Dropbox, GoogleDrive, etc. and so you would not be walking around with a laptop
  • you would have a small very plain-looking backpack to hold your running shoes and running gear, and you’d be able to put your office clothes and shoes in the backpack once you dress for a run; and
  • you’d be good friends with someone with a shop near one of the starting points of your run, and you’d ask the barkeeper, proprietor, publican that you will come and get your backpack in a few hours but more importantly you’d be bringing in a bunch of thirsty friends with you and would it be ok to just leave your backpack behind the bar? cashier’s counter? etc.
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bomb threat
i dunno. even a personal friend what owns the store/pub/office, might get sketched in today’s environment of constant fear and threat.

sorry. that was just a gut reaction to what, in kinder times, would be a suitable set up. i want for those days, too.
but we are discussing a better world with better “livable” spaces, so we can dream, yeah?

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How are you faring, over there, o floridamanjefe? I’ve been watching Hurricane Milton. Hoping you’re going to be ok.


Huh, this is a potential angle I had not thought of.
Maybe the rule would be that the pub owner would search the bag? I dunno.

The problem with ye olde storage locker is that bad actors can just as easily put something awful in a street locker as they can anywhere else. I am old enough to remember the times when airports had storage lockers, back in The Before Times. 9/11/2001 changed a lot of the U.S. for the worse.

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My workplace has lockers and a shower in the basement, as well as a heated clothes-drying cabinet. I suppose in that scenario you would change into your running clothes at work, then take the bus?

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A city without any cars? The residents would have so much extra money solutions would emerge. Look how quickly Amazon installed delivery lockers in various businesses. For the price of a single car you could have a set of lockers for a busload of people. Instead you’d be complaining about accidentally having left belongings in four different locations if we embraced a transit-centric model.

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These are ubiquitous at train stations here in Japan.

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Tbf, every country I’ve ever been to has had train station lockers.

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Yeah, its usually just a matter of “you can’t miss them” versus “you have to ask someone where they are.”

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Thanks for all the responses. The lockers are probably the thing I’m missing. We don’t have any generally available lockers here in town, but if things were different, things would be different, right?

  • locking a suitcase to a bike rack. I like this one, but it’d be blown up by the bomb squad in 15 minutes :joy:
  • asking to stash a bag at the bar. I’ve done this too. Never a problem, but it’s a max of 2 or 3 guys asking. I don’t think 30 bags would be so easy to store. @FloridaManJefe I don’t think a bomb threat has crossed anyone’s mind with this. But I’m a middle aged white dude wearing technical gear when I ask. Would a 20 year old with middle eastern features get the same consideration? Dunno.
  • leaving stuff at work/not needing to carry out in the first place. I wanted to structure the question to preclude that. Sometimes I just need some stuff with me, but can’t carry it right then.

@Jesse13927 @Doctor_Faustus Are the transit lockers fairly common in Europe and Japan? A typical meeting place is a park or outlying neighborhood, not the downtown core.

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Though of course if the downtown wasn’t built for cars you could meet there…

I cycle up the road to the park for a run meet. Same clothes and one bike key (small). I run to work, shower there, and get the bus home. Or cycle to and from when I’m bringing curry from the mosque beside work. It’s mean to bring curry on the bus.

Mmmm Thursday… takeout.

I don’t know that here is particularly good for active travel but not being tied to cars did form part of our thinking in moving here. Doctors, dentists, shops all walking and, as it turned out, hospitals all walkable/cyclable/busable.

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Just ban the damn things

“Europe should ban the Ram,” said Dudley Curtis from the European Transport Safety Council. “This type of vehicle is excessively heavy, tall and powerful, making it lethal in collisions with normal-sized vehicles, pedestrians and cyclists.”

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The look back part of that video reminded me of this from Little Shop of Horrors:

Converting existing parking lots / garages might increase walkability. Hopefully, any cost savings could be applied to improving public transit, too:

This conversion to affordable housing looks like another step in the right direction:

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