Man with gun gets robbed by man with a gun, leaving two unarmed people injured

[thomdunn]

Originally published at: Man with gun gets robbed by man with a gun, leaving two unarmed people injured | Boing Boing

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[gracchus]

Guns Don’t Kill Americans, Stale Bad Arguments Do

The Good Guy With A Gun Myth People successfully defend themselves with a gun less than 1% in violent crimes: People carrying a gun are 4x more likely to be shot in a violent crime: People carrying firearms don’t stop mass shootings very often. Four times as many mass shootings are stopped by unarmed people as armed people:

Guns Don’t Kill Americans, Stale Bad Arguments Do

Thank you. “Moar gunz” isn’t really the answer. Related claim: “An armed society is a polite society” (Heinlein). Putting aside the implied strange desire to live in a society where the only way to be a considerate person is by constantly living in fear of someone shooting you, this doesn’t work out in real life. Rank these OECD countries on their reputation for politeness and then consider the degree of unfettered access their citizens have to firearms: Canada, Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, t…

[tcg550]

How is carrying the gun in a sleeve under his shirt open carry?

[RadioSilence]

their injuries were not life-sustaining

Thank goodness, those life-sustaining injuries are the worst

[knoxblox]

(though fortunately, their injuries were not life-sustaining)

@RadioSilence I owe you a Coke. Pop pop pop.

[mikest]

the transition time it takes to go from good guy with gun to bad guy with gun is measured in seconds.

[DukeTrout]

“Life-sustaining injuries” should translate to “emergency surgery.” So Guy#1 saved those bystanders lives by shooting them! /s

[awesomerobot]

Trained police who carry a gun every day for work:

At best the police force in the densest city in the country hit their target 37% of the time… at close range.

Is police training sufficient? no. Are private citizens with no training going to do a better job? hell no.

[iknownuurthing]

@thomdunn

their injuries were not life-sustaining

You definitely beat me to that one.
Life-sustaining.

[Grey_Devil]

[Chuckles]

In a really weird story, the weirdest part is Guy #3. What the hell?

[generic_name]

Americans are desperately trying to turn the USA into the Hollywood action flicks they so adore, and in the process they’re turning the country into a depressing art-house drama with a dark inexplicable ending.

[Tamsin_Bailey]

37% at under 7 yards?

Fuckers could walk into a barn door and still not hit it.

[robotmonkeys]

I’m really disappointed that Guy 2 got shot. It was going to be a textbook case of guns provide protection, if the only people injured were the people just standing around without guns.

[Radoncat]

@awesomerobot

Is police training sufficient? no. Are private citizens with no training going to do a better job? hell no.

Exactly. Having no training and no experience while in an incredibly stressful situation is a great recipe for disaster. I’m sure if you talked to these folks and said that it takes time and experience to deal with the speed and pressure of playing in the NBA, the NFL, the MLB or other professional sports they would agree with you. But guns in public with panic all around - sure, that’s easy as pie.

Morons.

[MessyJartin]

I believe it was Johnny Cash who said it best - don’t take your guns to town, son, leave your guns at home.

Also, wtf America. Pass a gun control bill already. This is so stupid.

[fiatrn]

@mikest

the transition time it takes to go from good guy with gun to bad guy with gun is measured in seconds.

The time it takes to go from “good guy with a gun” to Dead guy with a gun is measured in milliseconds.

[DukeTrout]

@Radoncat

Having no training and no experience while in an incredibly stressful situation is a great recipe for disaster. I’m sure if you talked to these folks and said that it takes time and experience to deal with the speed and pressure of playing in the NBA, the NFL, the MLB or other professional sports they would agree with you. But guns in public with panic all around - sure, that’s easy as pie

What’s fascinating about this isn’t that bystanders were injured, which also happens frequently with police shootings. What’s amazing was how minuscule the difference was between this outcome and police shootings. The only difference is that police would definitely have killed Guy#2. And likely arrested a random POC who had nothing to do with the incident.

[anothernewbbaccount]

@RadioSilence

their injuries were not life-sustaining

Thank goodness, those life-sustaining injuries are the worst

Needs more @thomdunn
As does

without even taking back the rifle that he’d been open-carrying before being, which had

Before being what? Well, ‘shot’ I suppose, or ‘robbed’. Unless he was carrying it before his birth (or conception, in some states).

[angusm]

@tcg550

How is carrying the gun in a sleeve under his shirt open carry?

I think the gun in question was a rifle, which is hard to conceal under a shirt. If you’re walking around with a rifle under your shirt, pretty much everyone knows you’re walking around with a rifle, ergo “open carry”.