Managing carpal tunnel syndrome at 46

I’m in the “get the surgery” camp.

I suffered from some serious carpal tunnel and after 20+ years of “managing” it I’d had enough. I was constantly dropping things because I had no tactile sensation. After the electric shock tests the surgeon said that I’ll probably only get 80% of the hand strength back in my right hand… and he pretty much nailed it. Better than having a dead hand which he said was about 6 months away. Oh, and to be able to make a closed fist for the first time in years… wonderful

besides being able to use my hand again, the best part of the first surgery (I had the 2nd done 2 months later) was the conversation during. I opted for a local as they were struggling with the mask (my beard was joyous)… although I felt no pain I could feel the pressure release when he sliced through the tendon… I was like “There it is!” and he harped back “My God… It’s like opening a can of biscuits!”. Everyone in the room had to take a minute to regain composure.

Seriously… the carpal tunnel surgeries were the best things I’ve ever done for myself.

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In addition to switching to a split keyboard and getting a below-desktop keyboard tray, I switched my mouse hand from my dominant hand (right, experiencing numbness and other arm issues after years of bad ergonomics) to my non-dominant left hand. After a couple weeks of awkwardness, I got used to the change. It pretty much saved my career. I’m still a lot slower with more precise mousing tasks like using Photoshop, but that hasn’t been a bad thing in regards to tension. 13 years on, no additional problems!

I have the added joy of Basal joint arthritis in my left thumb and a high tolerance for pain kept me from the doctor until the cartilage was completely gone. It was after the first shot of corticosteroids that I was even aware of the carpet tunnel. Now when I go for the joint shot, I get another at the base of my hand. After a few days, I get some relief. The doctor says it’s the vibration from motorcycling, so why don’t I have it in the right hand? No matter. Going for surgery this fall, right after the 1600 mile motorcycle ride. I’ve had several clutch slips and just hoping for the best!

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Kinesis Ergo keyboards, the double bowl sort, fixed things for me. I got the first one about 18 years ago for home, replaced it a couple of years ago; workplaces have bought 3 more for me. Quality is really good, takes some getting used to but it’s faster than a “regular” keyboard for me.

Has the added side benefit of keeping everyone else from using my workstation. :grinning:

Used the large version of the Contour mouse and vertical mouse as well, alternating between the two every few days to keep the strains balanced.

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Everyone will have their own private wisdom to dispense on this subject… and here’s mine!

I think the most important thing to understanding these modern ailments of the body is they are not primarily the result of repetitive movement - the body, after all, is designed for repetitive movement. The main problem is lack of movement. That is, for eighteen hours a day we are holding our hands in a particular position, often under tension. It is this continuous strain that causes injury more than anything else.

The solution to this problem is to move - not once a day, but often, ideally continuously. Connective tissue thrives on movement - if you don’t move, tendons lose their elasticity because they are not extended to their full range, fascia become sticky and muscle fibers begin to adhere to each other. Massage is a useful tool to solving some of these problems (breaking cell-cell adhesions or stretching tendons by physical manipulation).

The other important thing to understand is that your body is a connected system. Your wrists may have problems, but it doesn’t stop there. The tendons in your fingers are connected to muscles running all the way up to your elbow; accumulated tension in your forearms may also translate into poor shoulder position (turning in instead of lying back); along with a small keyboard this might result in a narrowing of the chest muscles, which may produce a forward-leaning posture. This posture may result in “gargoyling”, sticking your neck forward to crane at a monitor instead of sitting with your head sitting on your spine. This puts your neck muscles (which are only supposed to stabilize your head, not support its weight) under continuous tension for often eight hours, resulting in strain in the trapezius in the upper back (I often feel it in the band running between the shoulder blades). All of this because of bad wrist positioning!

The answer is: don’t try to fix only your wrists. Your whole body is suffering. Fix your entire posture. Sit up. Don’t crane your neck forward, let it rest above your (straight) spine. Open your chest, so that your pectoral is not compressed and pulling your shoulders forward.

Echoing @Simon_Clift I highly recommend a Kinesis split-key keyboard. It’s not a panacea, but it’s a start - it will allow your chest to be more open as you type. Throw your fucking Apple chiclet keyboard against the wall, they are pain in a beautiful form factor.

But mostly, GET THE FUCK UP. Stop expecting your body to work correctly if you sit in one bad position for ten hours a day. Stop expecting your body to work correctly if you sit in one GOOD position for ten hours a day. Lack of movement is the main cause of your problems. Move - it improves elasticity, it increases lubrication of your joints, it prevents muscle atrophy. A standing desk is a common tool, but again, will not solve all of your problems.

In the end the modern work situation is just not designed for our bodies - we need better input devices, desks and monitors that allow more movement, more comfortable body positions, and discourage static postures. We can seek out some of these things already - but mostly it’s on us to pick up healthier body habits.

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Okay, one other: carpal tunnel is closely linked to cervical 5 and 6 compression. If the disc between 5 & 6 is compressed, you’ll feel bilateral (both hands, though it can be more or less) tingling and numbness in the thumb, forefinger and fuckfinger. If the disc between 6 and 7 is compressed, you’ll feel it in ring finger and little finger. If both, whole hand.

C5/C6 compression is the result of a head forward posture and narrowing of the spinal channel. The latter is normal with age; the former is from too much time hunched over and not enough other. They’re tiny channels in the neck, so it doesn’t take much to cause compression. Correcting that posture, stretching and a good sleep position that helps relax all of the muscles of the back and neck turned out to be more valuable to me for preventing morning hand agony.

I had to train myself to sleep on my back. This was hard. I was a side/tummy sleeper, and no matter what pillows, sleeping on my side rounded my shoulders forward and contributed to the pressure. But I now sleep on a pillow with a neck channel and skull cavity, and that helps. I also have a wedge under my knees, to support my lower back. Between the two, I sleep on my back at least 7 hours and I don’t wake up in pain. I also sleep better, over all.

Part two is stretches, specifically for the scalenes in the neck, the trapezius and the latissimus. Add in posture work - walking or working at a standing desk with a small, empty box on one’s head really does help (rather than a book, since if you lose your posture happy thoughts, the box is less likely to break something). If you’re a boob-haver, get fitted for a very good, supportive bra (using the r/ABraThatFits method, not the +4 method) or a very good binder, the type that you put on laying down and pancakes the breast tissue on the chest wall instead of pushing it into armpits. And get your eyes checked. We hunch when we’re trying to see; that means you might need reading glasses.

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After years of digging ditches, I had the surgery on both hands in 1981 by pioneering hand surgeon H. Buncke in San Francisco. (so-called father of microsurgery). Instant relief. 30 years of little to no symptoms, I continued doing labor in both the theater and gardening. In 2010, my left (dominant) hand started up again, and I had a second surgery. Completely restored…

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If you don’t have a microwave, you can make a warm compress by soaking a cloth in the desired substance, & then laying a hot water bottle over it. Delicious.

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I wonder whether the tai chi warm-up of Silk Reeling Exercises might be of help.

I use the splints at night and find they really help. I’ve gone through the detection for carpal tunnel and they said I have a very mild case, not enough for surgery, but are unclear why I am often in so much pain.

I’ve also added arthritis gloves (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B005PFNSXG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) to my set of given things to wear. Sometimes under the braces at night. Allegedly, I have neither arthritis nor carpal tunnel, but I can tell you that this helps me a lot. I’ve taken to calling myself Iron Man when I’m wearing both. Oddly, my kids do not find it nearly as funny as I do.

The thought of drinking aloe makes me gag, but maybe I could give it a try. I’m younger than you and I’ve had this pain for easily a decade. I purposely try to stretch my hands and rest now and again,but I spent 10-15 hours a day on a computer so there’s only so much you can do.

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I still have my vertical mouse. Never found drivers for it for Win7; I miss it.

Carpel Tunnel surgeries are not always successful. I had mine and after healing the top of my thumb is numb from the last joint to the tip. Try alternatives first, then find a good surgeon and pray for a completely successful operation.

How green?

Generally speaking, what you’ve said lines up with what a 95-year old retired surgeon I knew advised me to do. I came by his place one day and found him lying in the living room on the floor, and assumed the worst at first, but he explained about the posture and the stretching and the helping with soreness to make sure he laid flat for a while, once in a while. Had been doing it for decades. He didn’t drive, but he still rototilled his own garden.

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Pantone PMS 357 is a pretty close approximation.

Your mileage may vary.

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I am so not disappointed in boingboing

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nice! I had a piece of cake with black icing the other day and my poop was PMS 355

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That’s why I asked, the… results… of the Darth Vader gatorade the other year scared me somewhat.

I too suffer on and off with CTS and at time wear a wrist brace.
One day I realized I could mount my iPhone to it.
Now I feel so