Map of American people's attempts to guess where North Korea is

I think it’s fair to say being able to point out physical location is one of the first steps to other forms of knowledge.

for eg: What is that?

  • a bird

Where is it?

  • the sky

What’s it doing?

  • flying

blah blah blah until:

  • the migration pattern of the Spotted Sandpiper ranges from South America to Alaska
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I think the “what” is easily as important as the “where”.

Knowing that the flying thing in the sky is a bird and not a flying dog is fairly important.

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Not that much of a problem. If they are in, say, facility management.

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Are we calling it “NoKo” yet?

-looks around-

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And according to E.B. White, in Vermont a Yankee is someone who does all that and has pie for breakfast.

I think of myself as an honorary sixth-degree Yankee on the weekend after Thanksgiving.

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I’ve been calling their leader Little Kim for at least three Little Kims now.

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I dunno man. Reno is a weird place. I spent a few days for a friend’s wedding a couple years back in the Lake Tahoe area. As soon as you step over the California-Nevada border into Reno things get a little weird.

Case in point: We went to a grocery store for supplies before we went mountain biking. There’s a starbucks in the grocery store (or course there is), behind which there’s rows of slot machines:

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Starbucks in a grocery store is a fairly common occurrence, but the slot machines are pure Reno. OMFG the slot machines everywhere!

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Well, that’s about the difference between education and training. And education enables you to do a better job.

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I think that in the U.S., that distinction has basically disappeared. Except in the minds of people whose opinions don’t matter to most other people.

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A couple of points on the comparison: 1) We are not likely to have a nuclear war with Uzbekistan or Kyrgystan, and they do not feature as prominently in current geopolitics. 2) when I was learning geography, those were both part of “USSR” on the map, and I certainly knew where that was as well as its importance to the then-current world order. Of course, throwing a dart at the map you were pretty likely to hit “USSR”, so that isn’t a huge accomplishment. So I am happy to take blame for not keeping up with current geography, but it can’t be fairly blamed on the educational system.

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Funny story, I was actually married in Tahoe too. We had our wedding in the Catskills, but in the family chaos forgot to get the license at the local town on Friday! The Rabbi performed the ceremony on the promise we’d send him the civil certificate. On our honeymoon camping in N CA we were in Tahoe, and said WTF, why not get it here. So we went over the border to the Justice of the Peace, and were officially married.Yes, it was weird.

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I can make educated guesses, but identifying nations between the Arabian peninsula and Russia is a matter of playing mix and match with various 'stan’s for me. I have trouble with many other smaller countries as well, especially the ones that have renamed or redrawn themselves in the last 15 years. The main reason I can ID N and S Korea is a recent rewatch of MAS*H.

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Exactly. But if someone does not know what a dog or a bird is - well you might as well stop talking to them.

I honestly think there is a significant percentage of Fox and Friends viewers who wonder “Why do they keep showing a picture of Florida when talking about North Korea??”

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I thought that was a Vermonter?

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From their own vomit? (Because screw those Canadian honeybees!)

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Yep. A Vermonter whose life is a Robert Frost poem.

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Fucking hell - this is disturbing.

Not so many, I think.
“When asked which policies the United States should pursue regarding North Korea, Americans diverged on their views depending in part on whether they knew where it was.”
That suggests this is almost purely down to ignorance. The few people selecting the ocean may have been driving trollies, but otherwise…

They should have done a density map, but mentioning that only 36% got it right gives the rest of the needed information.

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Yeah. The labels for Israel and Jordan are very confusing, and iran seems to have suffered a catastrophic earthquake

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