Which is honestly a perfectly reasonable reaction to someone spraying bullets around indiscriminately. These guys aren’t soldiers or SWAT. They’re not trained to go up against armed attackers at the risk of their own lives. They’re very probably trained to NOT risk their own lives.
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Maybe someone was telling you your idea manifestly was dumb?
How can we be more responsible as people? ROBOTS?!?!? They will do it for us?!?
seriously? maybe maybe not.
I have an idea for less guns. More furnaces. More rust.
As for peace, more listening. Less superiority complexes. Change starts at home. Manifestly.
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freedom for me, from my fear of thee
What is it that makes this so precious to that poor Gollum.
Think I’ll have a smoke and ponder it some.
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As Wanderfound pointed out, the actual odds of police being killed by gunfire is barely higher than the population as a whole. If you think they are underpaid relative to their own perception of risk, then its obvious teachers and students need to be paid as much as police. After all, at Parkland more of the latter two groups died while the former stayed outside.
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My intent is not to compare the relative values of one profession to another. However, teachers making 6 figures would not be out of line.
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My point was that the “good guy with a gun” was on the scene of events.
The analogy actually works really well! In the following sentences change “own guns” for “smoke” and “killed by guns” with “lung cancer”:
People who don’t own guns can still get killed by guns, owning guns just increases the odds significantly.
When people around you own guns, you may develop death as a result of second-hand gun ownership.
The NRA insists on arming more and more people with guns to prevent death by guns. (I’ll leave figuring out what words to substitute for what other words in that sentence up to the reader)
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He wasn’t good.
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That cop may not have been a coward as much as he was poorly trained. If the active shooter was shooting, that person would likely be unaware of anything going on that wasn’t right in front of his gun. I believe a properly trained LEO might have been able to find a way, through a side entrance perhaps, to get behind the shooter. Of course, with current school security as it is, likely all the doors into the school were locked, and the kids and teacher were still screwed. It was a decision made by that cop hiding behind his car, and for better or worse, he will have to live with his lack of a response for the rest of his fife.
You realize that many non-smoking people get lung cancer because of smokers.
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that seems a pretty llazy equivalence to me.
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Add to the awesome clusterfuck: Everyone involved with setting up CCTV surveillance running with a 20 minute delay. Just fucking brilliant. Must have involved some bullshit provider bribing his way into a deal with the locality then executing ineptly and still making his money because that’s what’s important, always. He’s rich, they’re dead; no problem in these times.
As for the FBI: Do you really want them to spend relatively limited resources looking into every little complaint of a potential threat. And you know what the FBI would have done if they hadn’t dropped the ball? Report Cruz to local authorities. Who had already been made aware of him and of course chose to do nothing.
Sick times. By which I mean our leadership. Sick people.
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Could you point me to an example school on Google Maps with one of these enormously long corridors? I checked every school in my city, and the very longest high school hallways are under 100 yards, and there are enough side passages that it’s always possible to get within 100 feet of any given point without putting yourself in line of sight.
I always thought the whole point of armed officers is that when bad stuff happens, they’re supposed to interpose themselves between civilians and the bad guys. And that definitely includes the guard at the school.
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Well what are the rules there? I’m with @DukeTrout in my state where it codified what I did anyway when a car was pulled over, so it seemed like a relatively sensible thing to me. You change lanes if you can, if you can’t, slow down and give them plenty of space.
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If Trump has his way they will be expected to die for our kids as well.
I think it should be noted that Trump is just regurgitating the NRA talking points as he was told to do. Now the NRA is hated and rightfully so. But it should also be noted that the NRA is the PR and lobbying from of the gun manufacturers and one of its main functions is to deflect the heat from them. But the NRA does what it is instructed to do by the guns manufacturers, just as the MPAA, RIAA and the Tobacco Institute do for their masters.
The AR-15 is made and marketed by Colt’s Manufacturing Company (CMC) not the NRA. No one ever seems to be asking of CMC, “can you please stop doing this?” If look on the web for information about CMC’s president Dennis R. Veilleux you can hardly find a thing except that the company seems to be going strategically bankrupt from time to time. While on the other you can find a lot of articles about the NRA’s president and especially its highly toxic vice president Wayne LaPierre, who even has his own page on Wikipedia.
Where am I going with this? I just want to point out that behind this the very corrosive influence the NRA has in America are its actual owners and masters, the gun manufacturers, who it appears never have to take any flak for what their PR front is doing. Which is likely just as it was designed by them.
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The same thing happened more or less, with the Isla Vista shooter. His parents called the cops and said “our son is mentally unstable and we think he has guns.” So the cops showed up at his house and said “Hey, are you mentally unstable and hoarding guns?”
And Rodger was like “nah bro I’m good” and they left. And then he murdered his roommates and shot up the town.
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