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Apologists are generally the ones in a place of privilege who make up reasons why the person who feels disenfranchised shouldnât feel that way.
âShe hasnât had her own movie.â⌠because itâs a bunch of male marketers who are calling the shots. HenceâŚ
âThere should be a woman president!â
âWell, thereâs never been a woman president. Itâs always been men. Maybe there could be a woman vice-presidentâŚâ
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Youâre not alone! Iâm all in for this boycott. Easy for me, though, since Iâm a grownup and stopped watching such stuff years ago.
ducks and runs
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True. No supporting character has ever gotten a comic of their own in the history of comics. Also, past performance completely guarantees future results. Women only represent half of the population so anything marketed to them isnât worth the effort.
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âWell, thereâs never been a woman president. Itâs always been men. Maybe there could be a woman vice-presidentâŚâ
[/quote]I donât think theyâd win.
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I believe youâre right. Cap has often used a bike in the comics, and had one in Winter Soldier. Notice also that the bike in the movie had a convenient place to hold his shield. Iâm pretty sure at one time I saw an article about Capâs new bike, but that could have been for Winter Soldier, but if it was for this Avengers movie then perhaps scenes with him riding it were cut.
It would be nice if the movies had more women in them. There have been the two Captain Marvel characters, as well as the Wasp, although if she were anything like the comic books everyone would probably complain about her.
The movie-going (and toy-buying) audience isnât the comic-reading one*. (You donât sell a billion+ dollars worth of tickets by appealing only to comic book readers.) So thatâs rather irrelevant. I am hearing people complaining that they want to buy Black Widow toys and canât find any, however.
*Although I should also distinguish between the '70s/'80s comic-book audience, when comic books were targeted towards young, white male readers and modern readers, who are about 50% female.
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I do have one possible and valid explanation on this. ETA - Never mind, others pointed out the scene was in the teaser trailer months and months in advance.
These toys had to be made and designed months in advance. It is possible they were given story boards or concept art of what was going to be in the movie, and at the time it was Captain America or Iron Man on the motorcycle. Only later did they change the scene and have Black Widow on it.
That said, at least with the Lego version you can swap out who rides it.
Must. Always. Find. A. Way. TO COUNTER FEMINAZI AGENDA!!
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I was thinking about that possibility too. For example, I was freelancing at Mattel when they were coming up with toy designs for Cars long before that film came out, most of us just had some model sheets for the characters and a top-secret-but-still-brief synopsis of the film to go on. (I had to carry the knowledge of how Lightning McQueen lost the Piston Cup race but won the hearts of the crowd for months before I could legally tell anyone).
On the other hand, even if that scene was changed this isnât exactly a toy that would have to be redesigned from scratch. The Black Widow version of the scene has been in there for a whileâit was in some of the earliest teaser trailers. That seems like more than enough time for LEGO to swap out one minifig for another.
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SPOILER ALERT, YO!
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Lightning McQueen had his spoiler removed when he got that makeover in Radiator Springs, remember?
(Thatâs whatâs known as a âspoiler spoilerâ)
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The toy is clearly based on a specific scene, and I donât believe for a second that it was ever anyone other than Black Widow, even in the script. (Iron Man on the bike doesnât even make sense.) The fact that Black Widow was riding around on an electric Harley was being promoted at least a year ago, too, and the toy just came out.
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Only crazy feminists with agendas who arenât going to actually buy the toys⌠oh, um, right.
>Come now, that isnât fair. I think it is a very real and possible explanation to consider. Some of the other suggestions are possible as well.
ETA - NVM
Fair enough then. I honestly canât remember the early trailers. I still havenât seen the movie. For some reason I am not really excited about seeing it, though I am sure I will enjoy it.
I WILL be seeing Mad Max this weekend.
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Thatâs okay, posturarity has preserved it from, oh, October of last year.
Seven months should be enough time to get a mold done with motorcycle grip for her.
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@LetToysBeToys have been doing this on twitter for a few years now, running a more than a little successful campaign to get toy retailers in the UK to display toys by category rather than gender.
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