Change it. Just fucking change it. 
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I’m down with that. MC Hammer becomes…help me out here.
This is unqualified bullshit. Why is “whitelist” and “blacklist” nearly universally understood in computer science? Because engineers outside the US saw it and just ran with it not understanding the meaning? Because telling someone the issue is “Black and white” somehow wouldn’t be understood outside the US until recently?
You don’t say.
I am disappointed in the number of folks in this topic who seem to be missing the forest for the trees here. Are we going to go around lamenting that I can’t go call my happy neighbour “gay” because he will very likely think I mean the more contemporary meaning?
Which “Master” or “Slave” usage do folks feel it’s fair to subject the descendants of slaves to, in order to not have to avoid changing a term? /because the unfortunate truth is, once a word (think “gay”) or icon (think swastika) is used by enough folks to mean one thing, the fact that it used to mean something else doesn’t matter anymore. As our scholarly members like @anon61221983 can likely articulate far better than I, languages are living, mutable constructs and they change over time.
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I’m just tired of those of us who aren’t pale and male being consistently mocked and belittled for asking for just a little bit of change. Even here, when issues arise when people are being asked to be a little bit sensitive to an issue, they either name call or make fun of others who are raising the issue in the first place. Those of us who aren’t white men aren’t fully equal to them. Those of us who support trying to make the world more welcoming and inclusive are held up as objects of ridicule. Over and over.
And we wonder why we got someone like Trump in the white house. It’s because some people would rather burn down the world than have to change how they describe the world around them.
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I guess a mistress bedroom has different connotation.
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No. Not really.
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Change is a good thing. Changing language is not hard to do, and not too much to ask. I’m on board.
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Screw this master / primary / main bedroom stuff. I want a MONSTER bedroom, maybe the size of Hearst Castle. But I’ll take anything larger than my 10x12 foot cubicle.
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Was happy to see recently that the designation master and slave in MIDI is being deprecated by many, because it’s fucking evil old and pointless, so this makes sense too. I mean wtf is a master bedroom if it isn’t evil slave shit? I’m not master of my house. It’s ugly and awful.
Also, talking of electronics and music tech we stopped using male and female for innie and outie connectors years ago. And nobody died. Or had to be grossed out just asking for the right interface connector.
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I’m really not in the mood for making jokes. I thought I made that clear above.
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Yes. For one thing racialized slavery was common throughout the Americas, not just the USA. For another, similar or worse treatment happened in many places where Eurpoeans colonized Africa. Belgian Congo wasn’t the US, and the UK did a lot of black slave trading too. And no, white indentured servitude was not the same institution.
The etymology of this actually has nothing to do with skin color. It dates to at least the 1590s, long before the racist slave trade in and for the US. But it doesn’t really matter, since it resonates so strongly with skin color now, and is not actually a term that’s clear on its face like “blocklist” would be.
The etymology of this too has nothing to do with skin color, just color, as an example of a pair that are furthest apart and easiest to distinguish. It goes back to at least Shakespeare, e.g Henry V: “’Tis so strange / That, though the truth of it stands off as gross / As black and white, my eye will scarcely see it.” (act II, scene II). I expect it too has been somewhat racialized, but its a reasonable idiom on its own, and I would hate to lose it. I don’t think it’s beyond reclaiming.
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Much like other things, meaning changes. It still can be seen has helping to reinforce the notion of white = good, black = bad. It’s not just the etymology that matters, but the ongoing changing context of meaning that we should pay mind to.
Yes. No one is being hurt by changing them, while they are indeed part of the larger structures of racism in our society.
We can’t keep ignoring these problems and also expect them to just go away on their own. No actual change in any society happens that way. It takes actual work on our part to think about the world that we live in and how these things have an impact on actual living human beings.
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The concept is simple, putting it into practice might face some difficulties. I imagine getting universities worldwide to change the name of the academic degree of master to something else will be quite a challenge. I’m not saying it’s not worth trying, just pointing that out.
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Hmm you could have taken out a word there and achieved a 33% productivity improvement.
Personally I prefer mercurial which has no need for built in branches.
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My apologies, I replied without scrolling up the thread to see what I missed.
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Almost any major change will be difficult. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t pursue it if the end means we have a kinder world.
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That’s the Flintstones.
Not that it matters.
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It was up for consideration, but for the sake of pedanticism, default is not really correct. Default implies that’s the one you should be working in by default. It’s not. Our workflow is that you do your work in a feature branch and merge it back to the main branch (trunk could have worked equally well), but we chose main. And that seems to be the direction the community is moving towards.
I think integration is the best name for that main branch. It best reflects the function it performs.
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That’s a perfectly fine name for a branch. Though, for things like this, it’s too easy to get sucked into a vortex of triviality. And I think I already spent more time discussing this with you, than we did on our team.
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