Support For Black Lives Matter Surged During Protests, But Is Waning Among...
The recent protests against police brutality are some of the largest and most widespread in American history. An estimated 15 million to 26 million Americans haā¦
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As troublesome as Mr. Moore can be on certain subjects, I wholeheartedly agree with his assessment in this situation.
agreed. even if you donāt think that trump is going to win, act as if he is. Always fight as if you are five points behind.
I agree with much of what Mr. Moore says and does, and Iām a big fan of his works.
But I also have to acknowledge that heās got an inherent interest in Donald Trump winning. Itās good for his business.
then he would not be encouraging people to vote if he wished to further his interest, yes?
I mean, I think he believes that this is already over and is just looking forward to saying he was right.
I still donāt really forgive him for the āPlanet of the Humansā sellout he did.
The same is true for BoingBoing.
I mean, I certainly am not saying āGosh BoingBoing isnāt like it used to beā , but I definitely do miss the days where we werenāt seeing ten to fifteen stories at a time on the front page that are basically extensions on āDonald Trump is a horrible person.ā I get that itās important to call this stuff out and jump all over it and be aware of itā¦ but I also really do miss the interesting things that came out of here when we didnāt have Trump fully blowing out the news cycle.
i miss not having to think about politics all the time too but when you have an insane fascist running things and almost half of america willingly encouraging it, it kinda takes precedent. I used to care about cartoons and rock and roll and gadgets a lot more and now Iām constantly in panic mode over whatever new horrible thing is happening today. I know thereās always been bad shit happening in the world, but for the most part i could rest assured that someone was trying to fix most things and keep stuff in check. that isnāt much happening anymore.
It sounds to me that Moore is just engaging in pessimism and claiming that polling always fails in a way that benefits the Republicans. Ie. bog-standard progressive/leftist doommongering weāve been hearing for four years.
Doubtful. Did you read his post from last week? Michael Moore thinks Trump/Trump people will kill him. It was written in a way that was reasoned, not hyperbole. Death is pretty bad for business, dontcha think?
MM thought heād be killed by Bush Sr / NRA people over Bowling for Columbine, by Bush Jr people for Farenheit 9/11, by Trumpers for Farenehit 11/9 , by who knows who for Capitalism : A love story, by āBIG GREENā for Planet of the Humans, etc. And those are just his movie things.
Heās got a whole list of other people who will kill him for his non-movie political activism, most recently in his hometown of Flint, Michigan.
He always thinks heāll be killed by someone , and always has. And maybe itāll come true, maybe it wonāt, but this isnāt new behavior by him. Itās his usual.
This is starting to get close to ādonāt listen to cancer researchers because they have a financial interest in the continued existence of cancerā territory.
Donald Trump winning. Itās good for his business.
I still donāt really forgive him for the āPlanet of the Humansā sellout he did.
one of these things is not like the other. [ note: planet of humans is not about the trump family ]
moore has had a successful career of mixing documentary filmmaking and activism ā he never needed bunkerboy before, and certainly wonāt need him after. there are plenty of other white supremacist republicans, bi-partisan corporate government take overs, and environmental catastrophes to mine.
heāll be fine.
This is starting to get close to ādonāt listen to cancer researchers because they have a financial interest in the continued existence of cancerā territory.
As someone whose mom has cancer, I know for a fact cancer researchers have a much bigger financial interest in the cure for it. (Even though that term is broad, etc.) The cure to cancer instantly means trillions to whomever finds it.
That said, no, thatās not what Iām getting at.
What Iām getting at is that Michael Moore doesnāt know how to be optimistic, has a history of repeatedly being opportunistic and somewhat sketchy on facts, and so of COURSE heāll say that Trumpās going to win despite all the polling saying different.
And before people jump in with the āthe polls were wrong on Hillaryā, they werenāt.
Thatās kind of what Iām saying here. Heās a pessimist. Eternally. Him continuing that streak isnāt news.
I wholeheartedly agree with his assessment in this situation.
there are a couple of things iāve read lately that are troubling. first, that while support for black lives matter is still high, it has recently slipped some.
The recent protests against police brutality are some of the largest and most widespread in American history. An estimated 15 million to 26 million Americans haā¦
second is this:
The NPR/Ipsos poll also finds wide gaps in support for demands that racial justice advocates are making.
Though advocates believe true equality will not be achieved until all Americans are willing to grapple with racism, the survey showed that just 36% of those polled said they had taken concrete action to better understand racial issues after George Floydās killing.
white america refuses to examine itās role in the treatment of black people. itās very disheartening, and that plus the meme of looting and rioting seems like a recipe for trump winning to me.
What Iām getting at is that Michael Moore doesnāt know how to be optimistic, has a history of repeatedly being opportunistic and somewhat sketchy on facts, and so of COURSE heāll say that Trumpās going to win despite all the polling saying different.
He didnāt say Trump is going to win, he said heās on the same course he was on in 2016. And itās hard to argue that; he was at a not-dissimilar place in the polls at the time and Hillary almost certainly would have won if not for Comeyās 11th-hour announcement about the FBI investigation thing.
I think we would be hopelessly naive to assume there wonāt be a similar 11th-hour āscandalā hitting the news cycle to damage Biden, especially since Trump has now politicized the FBI (along with every other Federal agency) to act as an extension of his own campaign.
None of this means that Trumpās victory is inevitable, but I donāt think thatās Mooreās message. His message is that we cannot allow the same tactics that gave Trump the election in 2016 to work again. A lot of horrible shit is going to go down and we need to be prepared for it.
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